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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2021, 04:21:55 PM »

There are all kinds of books at our library about her. Some gossipy, some serious but all interesting  Wink

 The ones about the history of Monaco were very interesting to me.    The monk story, the scandals, the unhappy childhood of Rainier, his mother  Yikes , the fight with Onassis for control of the casino.  They say her father paid a million $ dowry for her.  Rumor was R was broke, makes you wonder where all their billions came from   Thinking

The media and public IMO adored her.  I don't remember any bad things said about her, which is amazing because Holywood is like junior high with petty jealousies and snark.  Says a lot about her charm that someone so blessed with money, beauty and talent was loved by so many. 

She had a very hard time at first, she didn't know Rainier that well, the people in Monaco didn't welcome an actress at all for their princess, she didn't speak the language, she had pushback on all changes she wanted to make.  She was lonely, isolated and mistrusted.  You never heard about all that, she worked so hard that she made it look easy.  Slowly she was accepted and eventually deeply loved and admired,  The grief when she died proves that.

An example of how hard on her they were, when she arrived in Monaco for the wedding she wore a large wide brimmed hat so people could pick her out in the crowd.....they complained they couldn't see her face  Blink
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« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2021, 05:37:35 PM »

There are all kinds of books at our library about her. Some gossipy, some serious but all interesting  Wink

 The ones about the history of Monaco were very interesting to me.    The monk story, the scandals, the unhappy childhood of Rainier, his mother  Yikes , the fight with Onassis for control of the casino.  They say her father paid a million $ dowry for her.  Rumor was R was broke, makes you wonder where all their billions came from   Thinking

The media and public IMO adored her.  I don't remember any bad things said about her, which is amazing because Holywood is like junior high with petty jealousies and snark.  Says a lot about her charm that someone so blessed with money, beauty and talent was loved by so many. 

She had a very hard time at first, she didn't know Rainier that well, the people in Monaco didn't welcome an actress at all for their princess, she didn't speak the language, she had pushback on all changes she wanted to make.  She was lonely, isolated and mistrusted.  You never heard about all that, she worked so hard that she made it look easy.  Slowly she was accepted and eventually deeply loved and admired,  The grief when she died proves that.

An example of how hard on her they were, when she arrived in Monaco for the wedding she wore a large wide brimmed hat so people could pick her out in the crowd.....they complained they couldn't see her face  Blink
Wow i hadn't realize she had such a hard time. Like you said she made it so easy!

From what i've read Rainier was a shrew businessman but yeah how they became one of the richest royal families is impressive.

I have to agree from what i've gathered it seems like the media and public adored her and not many people said bad things about her. She did a fantastic job as a Princess imo and thats why she is my top 2 favorite princesses of all time. To think she rivaled many "bigger" royal houses in terms of popularity and influence she did a great job for Monaco.
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« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2021, 09:42:06 PM »

I have always felt it's sad that her father never really appreciated her, Monaco didn't impress him. He said it openly that he always expected Peggy to make him proud, not Grace. He seemed surprised that people loved her so much. And I'm  not sure Rainier appreciated her - maybe only after her death.

And she always smiled, never let anyone see her difficulties.

Btw, I know the Paris Match photos of the first meeting with Rainier were not to her taste because the dress didn't photograph well enough - I have always loved these pictures especially. Also here: https://www.gettyimages.c...-and-news-photo/635112642

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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2021, 10:20:36 PM »

I have always felt it's sad that her father never really appreciated her, Monaco didn't impress him. He said it openly that he always expected Peggy to make him proud, not Grace. He seemed surprised that people loved her so much. And I'm  not sure Rainier appreciated her - maybe only after her death.

And she always smiled, never let anyone see her difficulties.

Btw, I know the Paris Match photos of the first meeting with Rainier were not to her taste because the dress didn't photograph well enough - I have always loved these pictures especially. Also here: https://www.gettyimages.c...-and-news-photo/635112642


Her father sounds so harsh! Grace loved as an actress and beloved as a princess. It was her personality Smiley

 I also felt Rainier probably didn't treat her the way he should but I do think they had happy moments.
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« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2021, 08:01:38 AM »

The amount of flowers Grace received on a regular royal walkabout all parts of the world showed people had affection for her Smiley
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« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2021, 08:31:36 PM »

Likewise the large amount of flowers that many royal ladies receive on a regular basis during their Pre-Covid 19 public appearances shows that there's great affection for them as well. 
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« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2021, 10:17:47 PM »

Likewise the large amount of flowers that many royal ladies receive on a regular basis during their Pre-Covid 19 public appearances shows that there's great affection for them as well.  
Agreed! Grace had a caring heart and I believe those who were in close proximity with her felt that and showed her affection and flowers are one way to show it!
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« Reply #82 on: February 22, 2021, 02:02:54 PM »

Likewise the large amount of flowers that many royal ladies receive on a regular basis during their Pre-Covid 19 public appearances shows that there's great affection for them as well. 
Agreed! Grace had a caring heart and I believe those who were in close proximity with her felt that and showed her affection and flowers are one way to show it!
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« Reply #83 on: February 22, 2021, 02:33:19 PM »

Likewise the large amount of flowers that many royal ladies receive on a regular basis during their Pre-Covid 19 public appearances shows that there's great affection for them as well. 
Agreed! Grace had a caring heart and I believe those who were in close proximity with her felt that and showed her affection and flowers are one way to show it!
Sorry, strange answer to that Statement... Thinking
I've read that she had a caring heart and flowers and royalty go together. She would receive a lot.
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« Reply #84 on: February 22, 2021, 06:25:52 PM »

I'm 37 and I come from Argentina, my grandma came from a a Spanish (high class, minor son) background, so she read "Hello!", and referred to them all by First names but she was a bit old to relate to Grace. Now, my mother, she felt that connection with D, she even woke up very early to watch the funeral here, and she felt as much with Grace, even if she was 30 years younger, she could relate to that for my mother liked that ideal nuclear family. They both exchanged magazines, read everything but on this, my grandma liked Jackie Kennedy better while my mother preferred Grace, she even was sad when the accident happened. Not to start a quarrel or something but it was widely discussed by then that Stéphanie was actually driving, a nonsense given where she was found in the vehicle, and that there were quarrel at the time, now it is actually believed Grace had a minor stroke or sight issues, she used to drive recklessly and those turns are deadly, in more than one sense.
To add to what other said, but my mother and grandma, even if my mother is 4 years younger that Caroline, even back then, they both pity Grace on her daughters, I was a child then but there was always some minor scandal, Stéphanie recording a disc, making videoclips, she moving in into a trailer with some circus' owner, before the Wales' war, that was THE most interesting place to dish.

All in all, as other said, we can all agree her biggest award was for her performance as Princess of Mónaco, she did that in a superb way until her early demise, and that awful end, if in a very sombre way, help to create the myth that surrounds her persona, it was really sudden.

The country has evolved from that to hideout for shady people that nowadays is, and even those Monegasque that in the beginning looked at her over the shoulder can now miss the day when she bringed poise, allure and good news. Caro has now taken the lead from her mother, and supports her brother. Basically, Grace is the reason why we all know where Mónaco is, and perhaps, huge if, I know, why it kept its independence. De Gaulle was prepared to take it by storm, and he might had succeed should they not have a very well known consort, and former Hollywood actress.
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« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2021, 10:09:51 PM »

oh my gosh I forgot all about her charming DeGaulle!
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« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2021, 10:26:40 PM »

I'm 37 and I come from Argentina, my grandma came from a a Spanish (high class, minor son) background, so she read "Hello!", and referred to them all by First names but she was a bit old to relate to Grace. Now, my mother, she felt that connection with D, she even woke up very early to watch the funeral here, and she felt as much with Grace, even if she was 30 years younger, she could relate to that for my mother liked that ideal nuclear family. They both exchanged magazines, read everything but on this, my grandma liked Jackie Kennedy better while my mother preferred Grace, she even was sad when the accident happened. Not to start a quarrel or something but it was widely discussed by then that Stéphanie was actually driving, a nonsense given where she was found in the vehicle, and that there were quarrel at the time, now it is actually believed Grace had a minor stroke or sight issues, she used to drive recklessly and those turns are deadly, in more than one sense.
To add to what other said, but my mother and grandma, even if my mother is 4 years younger that Caroline, even back then, they both pity Grace on her daughters, I was a child then but there was always some minor scandal, Stéphanie recording a disc, making videoclips, she moving in into a trailer with some circus' owner, before the Wales' war, that was THE most interesting place to dish.

All in all, as other said, we can all agree her biggest award was for her performance as Princess of Mónaco, she did that in a superb way until her early demise, and that awful end, if in a very sombre way, help to create the myth that surrounds her persona, it was really sudden.

The country has evolved from that to hideout for shady people that nowadays is, and even those Monegasque that in the beginning looked at her over the shoulder can now miss the day when she bringed poise, allure and good news. Caro has now taken the lead from her mother, and supports her brother. Basically, Grace is the reason why we all know where Mónaco is, and perhaps, huge if, I know, why it kept its independence. De Gaulle was prepared to take it by storm, and he might had succeed should they not have a very well known consort, and former Hollywood actress.
I love how both your mother and grandmother favored different types of famous woman. Its amazing and love your story!!! I favor Grace since to me she had a kind heart and by all accounts wasn't snobbish.

"her biggest award was for her performance as Princess of Mónaco"- I agree. I've been on tumblr reading old magazines and her interviews and she was superb. I am still amazed on how popular she was around the world. I assumed she was really only popular in the US, Monaco and Ireland but her star shined everywhere she went! She definitely brought poise, allure and good news. When she was Princess, Monaco became a respectable country with class. Sad its not the case today.
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« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2021, 05:18:06 PM »

I've been forcing my boyfriend to watch Hitchcock's movies later, he loves black and white and yet he cannot stay awake when we watch movies in bed.  Anyway, I got them all so I will be seeing Grace in all her glory. My grandma, as one who considered herself a Spanish monarchist, she was more into Queen Fabiola of Belgium and Queen Sofía of Spain. I don't think Paola suited them but we would never know since she died when I was 10, regarding my mom, she never cared much for royals but she fell also under D. wave, back in the 80s she was IT. I don't think it will surprise anyone when I say that both her and my aunt got some of haircuts.

And still over that, she read about the Grimaldis, it's common here going to a hairdresser and having magazines there while you wait, so she was aware of them. Nobody cares about them anymore unless you were born in either the 80s (present!) or 90s. If you are a centennial or above, they neither care nor know who they are, here in Argentina is Máxima all the way for obvious reasons but the Windsors are on vogue, and now perhaps those-that-shall-remain-nameless, let's not forget she worked here at the US embassy in Buenos Aires, some people fell a link somehow to their story just because, why? I can't tell...  Tongue

To sum up, team Grace here.

PS: Through all of you I learnt Rainer was a bit cheap, that would explain Grace not having a proper tiara to use, or even some flashy demi-parure, add the alleged dislike from her m-i-l and you have a full picture.
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« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2021, 07:21:22 PM »

The Serene title had an allure for her father and her father's millions and the consequent dowry a great attraction for Rainier. If she was "getting on in years", (all of 26 years old) was there really no-one else she could have married who might have adored her? By many accounts, Grace was miserable in her marriage and might have left Rainier but stayed because she would have lost custody of their children.

Hitchcock was Norman Bates-ish to his leading ladies. Tippi Hedren had related terrifying experiences with him and it seems many of his other leading ladies did not fare much better. It seems Grace was one of the exceptions, not for want of trying by Hitchcock.
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« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2021, 07:33:03 PM »

I've been forcing my boyfriend to watch Hitchcock's movies later, he loves black and white and yet he cannot stay awake when we watch movies in bed.  Anyway, I got them all so I will be seeing Grace in all her glory. My grandma, as one who considered herself a Spanish monarchist, she was more into Queen Fabiola of Belgium and Queen Sofía of Spain. I don't think Paola suited them but we would never know since she died when I was 10, regarding my mom, she never cared much for royals but she fell also under D. wave, back in the 80s she was IT. I don't think it will surprise anyone when I say that both her and my aunt got some of haircuts.

And still over that, she read about the Grimaldis, it's common here going to a hairdresser and having magazines there while you wait, so she was aware of them. Nobody cares about them anymore unless you were born in either the 80s (present!) or 90s. If you are a centennial or above, they neither care nor know who they are, here in Argentina is Máxima all the way for obvious reasons but the Windsors are on vogue, and now perhaps those-that-shall-remain-nameless, let's not forget she worked here at the US embassy in Buenos Aires, some people fell a link somehow to their story just because, why? I can't tell...  Tongue

To sum up, team Grace here.

PS: Through all of you I learnt Rainer was a bit cheap, that would explain Grace not having a proper tiara to use, or even some flashy demi-parure, add the alleged dislike from her m-i-l and you have a full picture.
I didn't know Rainier was that cheap! I read her mother in law disliked her which is a shame!

I think her children has ruined the image of Monaco. A lot of people see them as "euro-trash" whereas Grace really changed the image of Monaco to a classy respectable place. I feel like in terms of the most popular and well known princesses of the modern age it has to be Diana and Grace. I've read countless of magazines on Grace and before there was Diana there was Grace.
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