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I seem to think they sent Wax to the same school as he was a handful at home
Indeed, the story goes that WA was sent to the exact same school because he was not to badly "manageable" at home
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To my Danish eyes Alexia looks a lot like many Danish girls at 16 and I admire W&M for raising her like a normal child. This is definitely within a normal 16 year old girl would be like in Denmark and I cannot see The Netherlands being much different. Alexia is still a child and I am deeply uncomfortable with her being dished on, not her parents with an added lack of understanding of every culture not being the same.
Not European, but I completely agree with this. I'm actually really glad that Alexia seems to have been given the freedom to be like any other student at her school and live a normal life going to her classmates' dorm parties rather than being held to very different standards than her classmates even if it means she does things some people think is "unbecoming" of a royal. After all, she didn't choose to be a princess or to be in the public eye, she was born into it, so I think it's a great thing her parents seem to be giving her the freedom to be as normal a teen as is possible in her position. This kind of party and outfits is exactly what I'd expect from ~16 year olds wanting to be cool. Teenagers & University kids have thrown silly parties like this for decades. I remember going to a pretty similar looking one in 2007 back in my study abroad days. The only difference is that today's young people also have camera phones capable of putting a picture on social media within thirty seconds of taking it, and at their age, they don't always quite fully understand the idea of "the internet never forgets". I'm sure there as at least one older royal that would have been caught in a "trashy" moment at a similar age if today's technology existed at the time (perhaps even Alexia's own father).....as well as many who desperately wanted to be allowed to go to parties and have fun with their peers like a normal teenager but were forbidden from doing so. I've said it before, but I think a lot of people would do well to remember Alexia is still just a teenager, and one who never chose to be in the spotlight. Some people talk about her like she's a fame hungry 25 year old, and I think that is not fair to her at all at this point.
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Each person lives their life according to their circumstances ... and teenagers also live their adolescence according to different circumstances. Royal parents want their children to have a life as normal and close as possible to the people of their generation, but they must do so bearing in mind that they are public figures and that in many aspects they have a privileged life that many teenagers are far from dreaming about.
The Dutch are probably the most protected young royals thanks to their press code and that gives them a freedom that other young princes and princesses do not have ... but what use is such an iron control to the press if they later expose their life on social media?
The problem is not that teenagers have fun or do some crazy things, that has always happened ... the problem is not educating them to make responsible use of their social networks, and if they take pictures in their underwear and post them on the Internet when they are minors old is absurd, doing it with a princess who is publicly known making the photo spread all over the world is very stupid.
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Each person lives their life according to their circumstances ... and teenagers also live their adolescence according to different circumstances. Royal parents want their children to have a life as normal and close as possible to the people of their generation, but they must do so bearing in mind that they are public figures and that in many aspects they have a privileged life that many teenagers are far from dreaming about.
The Dutch are probably the most protected young royals thanks to their press code and that gives them a freedom that other young princes and princesses do not have ... but what use is such an iron control to the press if they later expose their life on social media?
The problem is not that teenagers have fun or do some crazy things, that has always happened ... the problem is not educating them to make responsible use of their social networks, and if they take pictures in their underwear and post them on the Internet when they are minors old is absurd, doing it with a princess who is publicly known making the photo spread all over the world is very stupid.
The lack of “education” of cause and effect goes to the parents... but this is the same family that thought it ok to go on holidays in Greece when everyone else was expected to stay home last year..... I don’t think they are stupid.... which some royalty seems to be ..... more an entitlement mentality which combined with huge wealth from spurious sources means they apparently believe they are beyond reproach.... if they want a private life where anything goes then fine .... give up the public role and go away into the sunset
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https://www.nu.nl/konings...oto-van-alexia-delen.htmlLoosely translated as: This is what the media faces when they share a private photo of Alexia
Private photos of the royal family rarely go around thanks to the media code, but this week it hit the mark again with a photo of Alexia and her friends partying at her new school in Wales. How strict is that media code and what are the consequences for the media if they share a private photo of the royal family?
Alexia left for Wales last summer to continue her secondary education there. Fortunately, in addition to studying, there is also time for relaxation, which can be seen in the photo in question that was shared on social media this week. The princess, dressed in a red, revealing outfit, poses for the camera with friends, who are also dressed for a party.
The photo was placed on the site of the magazine Ditjes en Datjes. After that, various other online channels shared the image of Alexia. The fact that the princess and her friends all have a protected Instagram account did not help.
"Publishing the photo does not serve the public interest and this is a private situation," the Government Information Service (RVD) told Shownieuws. When it became known that Alexia would leave for Wales, the RVD already warned that the princesses' school time is private and that the royal couple expects the media to continue to respect the privacy of their daughters.
It's not the first time this has gone wrong. Willem-Alexander and his daughters Amalia and Ariane were secretly photographed while eating a burger at McDonald's. The image was quickly taken offline by the photographer, but can still be found online.
It has been illegal to photograph the family since 2005. That's when the Media Code was introduced. (Then) Queen Beatrix and her family were increasingly troubled by photographers who invaded their private lives and therefore decided to organize a press moment three times a year in which the family poses for the media.
A big fine for secretly photographing a shopping queen Máxima and then sharing this image on Instagram is not an option. Other reprisals may follow. RTL Boulevard showed an Instagram photo at the end of 2019 that was made during the Christmas musical in which Amalia played a major role. As a result, the entertainment program was not allowed to attend the press event in Lech, which was organized a few months later.
"Members of the Royal House also have the right to imagine themselves unobserved during such private circumstances. In our opinion, showing the recording is an infringement of the privacy of the king and his family." The Dutch Association of Journalists (NVJ) thinks this is crooked: "This method does not fit with the public responsibility that the Royal House should display."
Now Ditjes en Datjes is not on the guest list at royal press moments, so putting the medium on the banned list makes little sense. In addition, the media code is not binding: this means that it is only a (very urgent) advice from the RVD to the media not to share private images of the family. Publishing is therefore allowed, although in a more extreme case it can still be decided to start a lawsuit. It is up to the court to decide whether the publication is indeed unlawful.
Taking and distributing a photo of Alexia yourself will therefore have greater consequences than publishing images that were initially leaked via Instagram. Ditjes en Datjes will probably not have to expect a lawsuit, if the medium decides to leave the photo in question.
NU.nl is awaiting a response from the editors of the magazine.Sometimes the family itself shares a private image: Willem-Alexander took a photo of Alexia just before her departure to Wales:
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Maybe classmates and new friends in Wales were not informed not to post pictures anywhere of photos containing the Princess.
Somehow a private party photo made its way out via someone at the party.
Btw, I see nothing wrong with teens partying and having a good time. Can teens today even have a good time if they don’t whip out their phones for photos though?
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It is also a very unfortunate situation for the other girls in the picture as the picture has gone viral (which it almost certainly would have not if Alexia had not been in it).
She is a very wild 16 year old and might not be able to judge all her actions right, however, all the perks in her life come from this immense social status her family has because her dad is the king of the Netherlands. He got a C or something at university which would have enabled him in "normal life" to become a teacher (maybe) or something similar. It is not his ability, it is the status he was born into and that she is now profiting of as well ... and here is the problem IMO.
He dad (and later her sister) have a public status that requires being conservative and credible. Her own parents had problems with their credibility when they took off for her fancy holiday during lockdown. So surely that was adressed. As a spare you do better keeping a low profile. I am sure she got some media training, heck, two of my children, 19 and 16 no way celebrity would make absolutely sure that such pictures do not find their way into public.
She is the spare. With a history like that it will be hard in years to come not to be seen as the wild and half-naked party girl. It is very insensitive that this has happened and it surely will not help her in the years to come.
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As a spare you do better keeping a low profile.
I get what you are saying, but she is a 16 year old kid at boarding school, not a 25 year old uploading pictures to her 100k+ followers on a public account. I don't know how the pictures leaked to the media, but I think a 16 year old girl at school and her friends should be left alone & given privacy. Yes, teens need to be aware anything put on the internet can spread like wildfire, but I'm also not comfortable with big media stories being made out of the contents of the private account of a 16 year old kid.
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As a spare you do better keeping a low profile.
I get what you are saying, but she is a 16 year old kid at boarding school, not a 25 year old uploading pictures to her 100k+ followers on a public account. I don't know how the pictures leaked to the media, but I think a 16 year old girl at school and her friends should be left alone & given privacy. Yes, teens need to be aware anything put on the internet can spread like wildfire, but I'm also not comfortable with big media stories being made out of the contents of the private account of a 16 year old kid. Yes. I agree.
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No Pearl clutching over here. Nope! There are two kinds of people in the world: the ones who measure everything by “what would other people think” and the ones, like Nobel physicist Richard Feynman who opined “what do you care what other people think?! Pearl clutchers usually fall into the former category.
Based on how heavy Alexia was made up and how intent she was posing for camera, I think she belongs to the former. She cares about what other people think. She wants to be the star, the center of attention. She has shown that trait for years in all the photo ops. It seems she would like to follow Olympia of Greece to become Instagram influencer and model. Call me old-fashioned, but I would be very concerned to learn my minor daughter (16 is a minor in the US. Not sure about Europe.) attending a party with whatever theme that was. How else did they act out that theme? Given Dutch media code doesn't reach the UK and her classmates are probably not Dutch, I'm pretty sure this won't be the last time her photos go viral on social media. It's the age of social media. This is not about letting teens be teens. She has a privileged position. She'll attend more royal events with her family in the future. What would others think when they meet her? Saluting her as the Royal Highness? Or seeing her as the half-naked girl posting for silly social media photos? I don't think Leonor was in that party. Her personality is much more reserved. I also think she's far more aware of her position than Alexia is.
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No Pearl clutching over here. Nope! There are two kinds of people in the world: the ones who measure everything by “what would other people think” and the ones, like Nobel physicist Richard Feynman who opined “what do you care what other people think?! Pearl clutchers usually fall into the former category.
Based on how heavy Alexia was made up and how intent she was posing for camera, I think she belongs to the former. She cares about what other people think. She wants to be the star, the center of attention. She has shown that trait for years in all the photo ops. It seems she would like to follow Olympia of Greece to become Instagram influencer and model. Call me old-fashioned, but I would be very concerned to learn my minor daughter (16 is a minor in the US. Not sure about Europe.) attending a party with whatever theme that was. How else did they act out that theme? Given Dutch media code doesn't reach the UK and her classmates are probably not Dutch, I'm pretty sure this won't be the last time her photos go viral on social media. It's the age of social media. This is not about letting teens be teens. She has a privileged position. She'll attend more royal events with her family in the future. What would others think when they meet her? Saluting her as the Royal Highness? Or seeing her as the half-naked girl posting for silly social media photos? I don't think Leonor was in that party. Her personality is much more reserved. I also think she's far more aware of her position than Alexia is. But Alexia does not have a 'position' and even if she did she should be able to have some harmless fun with her friends in private. As for acting out that theme - it is not as if they are having an orgy This is what teenage girls do, and there is always a photo.
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No Pearl clutching over here. Nope! There are two kinds of people in the world: the ones who measure everything by “what would other people think” and the ones, like Nobel physicist Richard Feynman who opined “what do you care what other people think?! Pearl clutchers usually fall into the former category.
Based on how heavy Alexia was made up and how intent she was posing for camera, I think she belongs to the former. She cares about what other people think. She wants to be the star, the center of attention. She has shown that trait for years in all the photo ops. It seems she would like to follow Olympia of Greece to become Instagram influencer and model. Call me old-fashioned, but I would be very concerned to learn my minor daughter (16 is a minor in the US. Not sure about Europe.) attending a party with whatever theme that was. How else did they act out that theme? Given Dutch media code doesn't reach the UK and her classmates are probably not Dutch, I'm pretty sure this won't be the last time her photos go viral on social media. It's the age of social media. This is not about letting teens be teens. She has a privileged position. She'll attend more royal events with her family in the future. What would others think when they meet her? Saluting her as the Royal Highness? Or seeing her as the half-naked girl posting for silly social media photos? I don't think Leonor was in that party. Her personality is much more reserved. I also think she's far more aware of her position than Alexia is. But Alexia does not have a 'position' and even if she did she should be able to have some harmless fun with her friends in private. As for acting out that theme - it is not as if they are having an orgy This is what teenage girls do, and there is always a photo. I have always taken exception with this “is what teenage girls do” the same way I side-eye “boys will be boys”. I just turned 32 and while in high school independently waited until 17 to date my first bf (no baby boyfriends before in elementary, middle, Etc). I also only went to homecoming and prom (no after parties) and any birthday party I went to in HS was supervised by parents. I look back now and don’t regret anything about it. I had an amazing experience growing up and didn’t go crazy in college as a result. It was wholesome and I still found ways to bend the rules without compromising myself. Saying all this to point out the fact that not all teen girls are the same and superficially what I have seen of Leo/Sofia they remind me a lot of what I was like. As others have posted Alexia has proven time and time again to love the spotlight and posing so I don’t think this is the last we will see of her and as she reaches adulthood it will only prove to be worse if she doesn’t achieve self-awareness of her position and the privileges that come with it.
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No Pearl clutching over here. Nope! There are two kinds of people in the world: the ones who measure everything by “what would other people think” and the ones, like Nobel physicist Richard Feynman who opined “what do you care what other people think?! Pearl clutchers usually fall into the former category.
Based on how heavy Alexia was made up and how intent she was posing for camera, I think she belongs to the former. She cares about what other people think. She wants to be the star, the center of attention. She has shown that trait for years in all the photo ops. It seems she would like to follow Olympia of Greece to become Instagram influencer and model. Call me old-fashioned, but I would be very concerned to learn my minor daughter (16 is a minor in the US. Not sure about Europe.) attending a party with whatever theme that was. How else did they act out that theme? Given Dutch media code doesn't reach the UK and her classmates are probably not Dutch, I'm pretty sure this won't be the last time her photos go viral on social media. It's the age of social media. This is not about letting teens be teens. She has a privileged position. She'll attend more royal events with her family in the future. What would others think when they meet her? Saluting her as the Royal Highness? Or seeing her as the half-naked girl posting for silly social media photos? I don't think Leonor was in that party. Her personality is much more reserved. I also think she's far more aware of her position than Alexia is. But Alexia does not have a 'position' and even if she did she should be able to have some harmless fun with her friends in private. As for acting out that theme - it is not as if they are having an orgy This is what teenage girls do, and there is always a photo. I have always taken exception with this “is what teenage girls do” the same way I side-eye “boys will be boys”. I just turned 32 and while in high school independently waited until 17 to date my first bf (no baby boyfriends before in elementary, middle, Etc). I also only went to homecoming and prom (no after parties) and any birthday party I went to in HS was supervised by parents. I look back now and don’t regret anything about it. I had an amazing experience growing up and didn’t go crazy in college as a result. It was wholesome and I still found ways to bend the rules without compromising myself. Saying all this to point out the fact that not all teen girls are the same and superficially what I have seen of Leo/Sofia they remind me a lot of what I was like. As others have posted Alexia has proven time and time again to love the spotlight and posing so I don’t think this is the last we will see of her and as she reaches adulthood it will only prove to be worse if she doesn’t achieve self-awareness of her position and the privileges that come with it. You are a little bit older than I am, but I also had a quiet teenage, but a lot has changed in the last 10-15 years because of social media. I do not see harm in dressing up and having a party with friends and that is really all we see and that is what I mean about this is what teenage girls do. The difference is that now people see pictures. They are not drinking or smoking or taking drugs or sleeping around as far as I see - they are just being silly in dress-up. Also I am adding that US is not the same as Europe and the countries of Europe are not the same as each other. What is 'normal' in one country can seem strange and even outré in others. Maria wrote about it earlier I think.
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No Pearl clutching over here. Nope! There are two kinds of people in the world: the ones who measure everything by “what would other people think” and the ones, like Nobel physicist Richard Feynman who opined “what do you care what other people think?! Pearl clutchers usually fall into the former category.
Based on how heavy Alexia was made up and how intent she was posing for camera, I think she belongs to the former. She cares about what other people think. She wants to be the star, the center of attention. She has shown that trait for years in all the photo ops. It seems she would like to follow Olympia of Greece to become Instagram influencer and model. Call me old-fashioned, but I would be very concerned to learn my minor daughter (16 is a minor in the US. Not sure about Europe.) attending a party with whatever theme that was. How else did they act out that theme? Given Dutch media code doesn't reach the UK and her classmates are probably not Dutch, I'm pretty sure this won't be the last time her photos go viral on social media. It's the age of social media. This is not about letting teens be teens. She has a privileged position. She'll attend more royal events with her family in the future. What would others think when they meet her? Saluting her as the Royal Highness? Or seeing her as the half-naked girl posting for silly social media photos? I don't think Leonor was in that party. Her personality is much more reserved. I also think she's far more aware of her position than Alexia is. But Alexia does not have a 'position' and even if she did she should be able to have some harmless fun with her friends in private. As for acting out that theme - it is not as if they are having an orgy This is what teenage girls do, and there is always a photo. I have always taken exception with this “is what teenage girls do” the same way I side-eye “boys will be boys”. I just turned 32 and while in high school independently waited until 17 to date my first bf (no baby boyfriends before in elementary, middle, Etc). I also only went to homecoming and prom (no after parties) and any birthday party I went to in HS was supervised by parents. I look back now and don’t regret anything about it. I had an amazing experience growing up and didn’t go crazy in college as a result. It was wholesome and I still found ways to bend the rules without compromising myself. Saying all this to point out the fact that not all teen girls are the same and superficially what I have seen of Leo/Sofia they remind me a lot of what I was like. As others have posted Alexia has proven time and time again to love the spotlight and posing so I don’t think this is the last we will see of her and as she reaches adulthood it will only prove to be worse if she doesn’t achieve self-awareness of her position and the privileges that come with it. You are a little bit older than I am, but I also had a quiet teenage, but a lot has changed in the last 10-15 years because of social media. I do not see harm in dressing up and having a party with friends and that is really all we see and that is what I mean about this is what teenage girls do. The difference is that now people see pictures. They are not drinking or smoking or taking drugs or sleeping around as far as I see - they are just being silly in dress-up. We still had MySpace and Facebook had just entered the scene. Pictures were and still are out there. I would have never dressed that way in high school and even in college during my frat’s “CEO’s and Corporate Ho’s” and the follow-up sexy Barbie party where we were encouraged to dress up like a sexy Barbie version (I wore a flannel shirt and Daisy Duke jean shorts). That was well into my 20s. I would have never dreamed of wearing what any of those girls had on in the pictures. I am also not an heiress, and while not as aware of what pictures like that could do to my professional reputation, my personality was just not suited for it. So not all teenage girls are created equal in character, boldness and attention seeking ways.
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