News about Andrew and Sarah

[Celia]

I thought the queen mother started creating trusts to benefit her grandchildren at one point, like in the 70s.  Wouldn't Andrew have received some financial assistance this way?  The papers are always including "inheritance from QM" in their speculations about Harry's supposed wealth.

[Booklover]

Fergie said she is going to support Andrew.  But Royal Lodge is huge. Why such a large and expensive house for just 2 people?

[Gemsheal]

https://www.dailymail.co....0million-inheritance.html


If Andrew is leaking all these stories to the DM in hope of sympathy (which I'm inclined to believe) he needs someone to talk sense into him. He comes across as arrogant, spiteful and money obsessed (the house, the security, now a lack of inheritance) He obviously things Charles is sitting around twiddling his thumbs since their mother died.

He paid a multi-million pound fee to settle the civil case against him in America. It is thought he was helped with money from family.

Now, with no official duties and no job, Andrew is reliant on his brother’s generosity.

He has finally moved out of his offices at Buckingham Palace and, as The Mail on Sunday revealed, will almost certainly be forced to quit his 30-room mansion at Royal Lodge and move into Harry and Meghan’s Frogmore Cottage when they vacate later this year.
Prince Andrew has told friends he is ‘bewildered’ and ‘in despair’ over the King’s failure so far to share their mother’s fortune.

The King was the sole beneficiary of the Queen’s estate, estimated to be worth more than £650million.

There is said to be ‘some resentment’, particularly from the Duke of York, that he and his siblings have not yet been given what they feel they are owed.

A palace source said the Queen’s fortune had passed directly ‘from monarch to monarch’ because that was the most ‘tax efficient’ way to transfer it. A decision made in 1993 means no inheritance tax is paid on assets moving from one sovereign to another.

But that means none of the Queen’s other children, including Anne and Edward, have received money.

A friend of the Yorks said: ‘Andrew is in despair. He’s been left completely in the dark. Andrew’s a member of the family, for God’s sake, yet he had no idea this was coming. I gather he’s checked it out and it’s true. It’s all gone “monarch to monarch”.

‘What’s he meant to do? Go cap in hand to his older brother to keep a roof over his head? Things are going from bad to worse. It’s a disaster.’

The news comes after it emerged yesterday that the King is refusing to pay a £32,000 bill for Andrew’s Indian healer, a yogi who comes to live at Royal Lodge, Windsor, for up to a month at a time.

In need of his own income, speculation is mounting that Andrew might ‘do a Harry’, as one source said, by taking part in a prime time interview.

A palace source said: ‘Andrew hasn’t been uniquely targeted for ill-treatment. Her late Majesty supported her children during her lifetime and had made provision for them already.’

As working Royals, Edward and Anne receive a stipend from the Sovereign Grant to cover costs.

Andrew, however, stepped down from royal duties more than three years ago when he faced accusations of sexual assault, which he continues to deny vehemently.

He paid a multi-million pound fee to settle the civil case against him in America. It is thought he was helped with money from family.

Now, with no official duties and no job, Andrew is reliant on his brother’s generosity.

He has finally moved out of his offices at Buckingham Palace and, as The Mail on Sunday revealed, will almost certainly be forced to quit his 30-room mansion at Royal Lodge and move into Harry and Meghan’s Frogmore Cottage when they vacate later this year.

A well-placed source said it was the Queen who originally proposed that Andrew move to Frogmore and it was not, as some suggested, a vindictive move from the King.

It is also understood that the Queen had thought it appropriate for William and Kate to move into Royal Lodge in due course.

The King has vowed to Andrew that he will leave him with a home and will continue to pay for his private security after he lost the right to be protected by Scotland Yard.

I would bet my next paycheck that the source for all these stories is SARAH FERGUSON.

You know ... if they all don't shut the hell up, there will be no monarchy, and then where would the "support money" be?   

[Lady Liebe]

I would bet my next paycheck that the source for all these stories is SARAH FERGUSON.

You know ... if they all don't shut the hell up, there will be no monarchy, and then where would the "support money" be?   

Indeed Gemsheal.

Here's todays latest installment from the DM. I didn't read the article but the headline says it all . . .

https://www.dailymail.co....-novel-present-Oscar.html

The Queen told me to keep writing my Mills & Boon bodice-rippers: Fergie is touring US TV studios flogging her newest romance novel and may even present an Oscar... so is she more desperate for cash than ever now Andrew has been cut adrift?

The answer to that would be yeppers.

[periwinkle]

I get that growing up in a bubble means a difficult ability to change easily but you know live within your means and according to your station and things will be all right. Andrew and Sarah are empty nesters and lucky to have each other. Downsize like most people do and get on with it. I do wish Charles could offer something to Andrew to occupy his time and allow him to be useful while still an able bodied man and still keep him out of the public eye. Some job their father had who seemed to be in charge of a lot of the estates and lands.

[Lady Liebe]

I get that growing up in a bubble means a difficult ability to change easily but you know live within your means and according to your station and things will be all right. Andrew and Sarah are empty nesters and lucky to have each other. Downsize like most people do and get on with it. I do wish Charles could offer something to Andrew to occupy his time and allow him to be useful while still an able bodied man and still keep him out of the public eye. Some job their father had who seemed to be in charge of a lot of the estates and lands.

I think your idea a wise one peri. Idle hands etc. HLM made Charles Ranger of Windsor Great Park, a post held by PP since shortly after she ascended to the throne. There is also a Deputy Ranger who carries out the real nuts and bolts of managing the Park. Perhaps Charles may see fit to put Andrew in charge of one or two of the aspects off WGP management, or to consult on some new project. The deputy Ranger would be there to keep an eye on Andrew.

It would be out of the public eye, give Andrew something to do and a kindness on Charles' part. 

Fergie would have to be reined in from spilling the beans though. That's the fly in the ointment.

[SvenskaSarah]

I get that growing up in a bubble means a difficult ability to change easily but you know live within your means and according to your station and things will be all right. Andrew and Sarah are empty nesters and lucky to have each other. Downsize like most people do and get on with it. I do wish Charles could offer something to Andrew to occupy his time and allow him to be useful while still an able bodied man and still keep him out of the public eye. Some job their father had who seemed to be in charge of a lot of the estates and lands.

I think your idea a wise one peri. Idle hands etc. HLM made Charles Ranger of Windsor Great Park, a post held by PP since shortly after she ascended to the throne. There is also a Deputy Ranger who carries out the real nuts and bolts of managing the Park. Perhaps Charles may see fit to put Andrew in charge of one or two of the aspects off WGP management, or to consult on a some new project. The deputy Ranger would be there to keep an eye on Andrew.

It would be out of the public eye, give Andrew something to do and a kindness on Charles' part. 

Fergie would have to be reined in from spilling the beans though. That's the fly in the ointment.

I agree with both of these points; I'm sure Charles can find a job for Andrew that keeps him occupied and out of the limelight, but will Andrew accept? He's well known for being pompous and didn't he complain about being removed as a Commonwealth role when one of his scandals broke and ended up with a cushy job somewhere else? I think Andrew would regard certain jobs as 'beneath' him.

[LongMaySheReign]

I don't agree at all that Charles should give him a job. Andrew is famously rude to staff and difficult to work with. If Charles puts him in charges of anything and he acts like the jerk that he is, and then claims about his behavior are made public, it would reflect badly on Charles IMO. 

[ralf103]

There were reports that Andrew has sought to be put in charge of the Royal estates and Charles had said no. TBH Andrew knows naff all about estate management (probably the least out of any of the Queen’s children) and is rubbish with money so its not the right role for him.

I’ve always thought Charles should set Andre to work for the next few years helping sort out all the late Queens papers and possessions (under careful supervision of the Royal Archive and Royal Trust teams!)

[Lady Liebe]

There were reports that Andrew has sought to be put in charge of the Royal estates and Charles had said no. TBH Andrew knows naff all about estate management (probably the least out of any of the Queen’s children) and is rubbish with money so its not the right role for him.

I’ve always thought Charles should set Andre to work for the next few years helping sort out all the late Queens papers and possessions (under careful supervision of the Royal Archive and Royal Trust teams!)

That would be a good idea too ralf. Working alongside an archivist and someone from the Royal Tust will keep him under supervision and everything aboveboard. I'd put Anne somewhere into the mix too. I just think Andrew is better occupied with something than left to his own resources.

[onar]

Apologies, I usually don't comment on Andrew and Sarah but Charles giving him a job is not right IMO.
Andrew's general behaviour, outside the family, showed he had no respect for others and he makes poor decisions for his personal interest, so putting him in charge of anyone and anything will give him a wrong sense that he's capable and worthy and I don't think he is. He doesn't deserve it.

[Cordelia Fitzgerald]

More and more it seems like the BRF has a distinct inability to think ahead.  There was ample time to hammer this out before the Queen died.  There was ample time to hammer a LOT of things out before the Queen died.  Conversations needed to be had; contracts needed to be drawn up; intentions and expectations (and consequences) needed to be made completely clear. 

If the Queen left everything to Charles to avoid inheritance tax (which is kind of rotten but it is what it is), I would hope that they all would have talked and agreed how Charles would gift/divvy it up.

I have no sympathy for any of them in this situation because I feel like they've made a rod for their own back.

Sympathy for their grief, of course, but not for these issues and controversies. 

I like the idea of Andrew working under the strict supervision of an archivist, because he needs something to do but he doesn't deserve much.  But again, this is the kind of "rock and a hard place" that was easily foreseeable even a few years before the Queen passed.

Also Sarah is getting a little too "The Queen and I" in her stories and she needs to settle back down.

If the monarchy can't even foresee and handle issues in their own immediate family (and none of these issues popped up out of the blue), it doesn't engender a lot of confidence that they can be a stabilizing force for the nation as a whole.

[Oh_Caroline]

I'd have him working in the stables...he want's to be able to go riding regularly well then here's a pitchfork so get to work.  Give him a base allowance and then come up with ways he can "earn" extras...and consequences for causing any trouble.

The inheritance thing doesn't surprise me as Sovereign to Sovereign (or Consort to Sovereign) inheritance is protected from inheritance tax.  No one really knows what the Queen was worth but her estate would include Balmoral, Sandringham, her private jewels, and whatnot.  I wouldn't be surprised if she was asset rich but cash poor.  There will certainly be some lifetime loans with the jewelry, occasional loans of other jewelry, and the various family members being allowed to holiday at the estates.  After seeing Margaret's children needing to sell off most of her estate to pay the inheritance taxes I highly doubt anything substantial will be given to people as their descendants would probably sell any gifts in a generation or two.  Use of things...yes.  Ownership of things...no.

[Cordelia Fitzgerald]

I'd have him working in the stables...he want's to be able to go riding regularly well then here's a pitchfork so get to work.  Give him a base allowance and then come up with ways he can "earn" extras...and consequences for causing any trouble.

The inheritance thing doesn't surprise me as Sovereign to Sovereign (or Consort to Sovereign) inheritance is protected from inheritance tax.  No one really knows what the Queen was worth but her estate would include Balmoral, Sandringham, her private jewels, and whatnot.  I wouldn't be surprised if she was asset rich but cash poor.  There will certainly be some lifetime loans with the jewelry, occasional loans of other jewelry, and the various family members being allowed to holiday at the estates.  After seeing Margaret's children needing to sell off most of her estate to pay the inheritance taxes I highly doubt anything substantial will be given to people as their descendants would probably sell any gifts in a generation or two.  Use of things...yes.  Ownership of things...no.

I like the idea of the stables even better!

[Curtains]

I definitely pick up the scent of Sarah as the source of the ‘inside the York camp’ outrage. She’s waiting so long for Phil to die, for the Queen to be unable to contradict Sarah’s ‘me & the Queen’ narrative, to live out her life where the Queen Mum did…

Oh well.