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« on: September 28, 2022, 02:22:09 PM »

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Changes will take effect from January 1st 2023.

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Her Majesty has decided that, as of 1 January 2023, His Royal Highness Prince Joachimís descendants can only use their titles as counts and countess of Monpezat, as the titles of prince and princess that they have held up until now will be discontinued. Prince Joachimís descendants will thus have to be addressed as excellencies in the future.


All four grandchildren maintain their places in the order of succession.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 02:29:20 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2022, 02:31:58 PM »

Wow, thatís shocking!! Fair - but shocking.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2022, 02:38:13 PM »

I am shocked, but it is in line with other RF are doing, to slim down and limit titles to one on the direct line of succession.

Honestly, I do think Joachim maybe prefers it this way. He moved to France to explore other opportunities, and even if it was not by his choice, they seem happy there. Gives this children liberty to pursue their careers without the "Prince/Princess" looming around. There is a lot of people that claim Nikolai only become a model because of title, not talent, for example.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2022, 02:45:29 PM »

Wow, thatís shocking!! Fair - but shocking.

Exactly how I feel.   
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2022, 02:50:57 PM »

Apparently Joachim, Alexandra and Marie are shocked and disappointed. Alex has made a statement to a paper (itís behind a paywall). That does not sound very good.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2022, 02:55:32 PM »

Wow, thatís shocking!! Fair - but shocking.

Exactly how I feel.  

I know there are different circumstances in different countries but perhaps the children of 2Nd in line should not be granted HRH titles at birth...
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2022, 02:57:36 PM »

Should the need for the second in line or anyone from that line need to step in and be monarch, could the HRH status be bestowed?

This is is first line folks die unexpectedly or something happens.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2022, 02:59:27 PM »

I have no issues when them not having a title but the way itís being done seems.. off somehow. Certainly it seems almost personal if Joachim and his family have not been informed or if there hasnít been a good, private discussion about it before it was made public.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2022, 03:01:03 PM »

Should the need for the second in line or anyone from that line need to step in and be monarch, could the HRH status be bestowed?

This is is first line folks die unexpectedly or something happens.

Well Fred has 4 children so unlikely they will all be gone. And Jokke still has his titles
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2022, 03:02:18 PM »

I can't believe that Joachim, Marie and Alexandra learned about the news from the press. What was Daisy thinking?
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2022, 03:03:14 PM »

I have no issues when them not having a title but the way itís being done seems.. off somehow. Certainly it seems almost personal if Joachim and his family have not been informed or if there hasnít been a good, private discussion about it before it was made public.

Iíd be surprised if they had no idea... might explain why they were not at the gala occasion recently
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2022, 03:03:27 PM »

Possibly the right decision but made at the wrong time in a typically undiplomatic, possibly cruel way.

I'm not sure Henrik and Athena should have had the titles in the first place - the line of succession was pretty much sorted through the Derf family by then, but surely this could have been handled better? It's the Paris move all over again.

Plus, this desire to streamline the DRF is fatally undermined by a Crown Prince who cannot undertake his core duties without considerable support.
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2022, 03:06:16 PM »

Possibly the right decision but made at the wrong time in a typically undiplomatic, possibly cruel way.

I'm not sure Henrik and Athena should have had the titles in the first place - the line of succession was pretty much sorted through the Derf family by then, but surely this could have been handled better? It's the Paris move all over again.

Plus, this desire to streamline the DRF is fatally undermined by a Crown Prince who cannot undertake his core duties without considerable support.


Well Iíd think they had been told and Fred is another issue....
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2022, 03:10:58 PM »

Surely discussions were held and this isnít a cruel surprise? My goodness that would be awful.
I wonder how Nikolai and Felix feel about this since theyíre adults now and their Prince title is being stripped.
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