RIP King Constantine

[Ghost]

No state funeral for him. I’ve just seen on insta. Private and they have to pay for it.

[Princess MS]

No state funeral for him. I’ve just seen on insta. Private and they have to pay for it.

As they should

[jigmesjigga]

There are loads of rich Greeks that have supported them over the years. And of course Pavlos's wife's family is loaded to the eyeballs and love a good spectacle. I can't imagine this will be a humble little country funeral.

[Princess MS]

There are loads of rich Greeks that have supported them over the years. And of course Pavlos's wife's family is loaded to the eyeballs and love a good spectacle. I can't imagine this will be a humble little country funeral.

Yes apparently the family of MC paid a lot of money to support the parents of husband

And Princess Nina has more money than she can  spend ..... at least AM can go back to Denmark and not be part of the parody

[Barrie]

I believe her dowry was in the 10s of millions.

[thecrownjewelthief]

Have there been any former presidents of Greece who passed away? How was it done for them?
He is a former head of state for Greece, whatever protocol there’s in place for a former head of state should apply to him also. Of course, the people’s mood should be taken into account, and the scale and spectacle tempered accordingly.

Some had a state funeral, but never lied-in-state, and some families declined state funerals because either the deceased didn’t want one, or the families believed it would be too costly when the country was going through a financial crisis.

Those state funerals though were of presidents of Greece who became heads of state of the republic. Constantine was a king during the monarchy which was abolished in 1974. If all heads of state should have state funerals, should Greece had given a state funeral to Papadopoulos, the dictator and head of state during the military junta? No.

Constantine is a part of history but he was a private citizen. He was not a king in the last 59 years. Offering a state funeral would be like a big “F U” to our republic. He’s associated with some very dark times in the country’s history, and did not have the country in mind when he was acting to stay as king, no matter the cost.

His family can offer him a private funeral, have him lie in state in the Cathedral just before the funeral, and bury him at Tatoi. Their requests are over the top and unrealistic, and it’s shocking and arrogant that they even made them.

Edit: I am sorry, but I do feel strongly about this. Both my grandfathers were in prison (and tortured and beaten) during the military junta, and modern Greeks unfortunately forget how Constantine and his mother facilitated the coup. His family have all the means to finance their plans, and yet they are acting as if Constantine was a savour and a remarkable head of state.

Thanks for this insight on some of the views in Greece - definitely helped broaden my perspective on his standing. So sorry that your family suffered so much as well.

[Princess MS]

I believe her dowry was in the 10s of millions.

I understand family of MC agreed to $200m over a period of time...

[jessmie]

I believe her dowry was in the 10s of millions.

I understand family of MC agreed to $200m over a period of time...

Omg WHAT?  What for? A Prince with a defunct title when MC could have married another rich heir from another rich family? What an insane amount of money!!! What did Pavlos even bring to the marriage apart from his title and blood connections to some other royals?

[Lovis]

I believe her dowry was in the 10s of millions.

I understand family of MC agreed to $200m over a period of time...

Omg WHAT?  What for? A Prince with a defunct title when MC could have married another rich heir from another rich family? What an insane amount of money!!! What did Pavlos even bring to the marriage apart from his title and blood connections to some other royals?

Little girl wanted a prince, Daddy bought her a prince.

[Lady Willoughby]

I believe her dowry was in the 10s of millions.

I understand family of MC agreed to $200m over a period of time...

Omg WHAT?  What for? A Prince with a defunct title when MC could have married another rich heir from another rich family? What an insane amount of money!!! What did Pavlos even bring to the marriage apart from his title and blood connections to some other royals?

It’s the traditional old story of the American Dollar Princesses.

We have our billions, so many do. But, history and a pedigree? Now that  will set you apart from the billionaire in the upper east side penthouse next door.

[Barrie]

So he is being buried as a private citizen then, no state funeral?

[Lady Alice]

So he is being buried as a private citizen then, no state funeral?

Yes, albeit a private citizen with a heck of a story.

I don't follow Greek politics but that was really arrogant and ballsy for P&N to ask for a state funeral. Even I know that would not go over well.

[loveofenglishtradition]

I believe her dowry was in the 10s of millions.

I understand family of MC agreed to $200m over a period of time...

Omg WHAT?  What for? A Prince with a defunct title when MC could have married another rich heir from another rich family? What an insane amount of money!!! What did Pavlos even bring to the marriage apart from his title and blood connections to some other royals?

It might have been a reason for the marriage, but it could also be just Love. We will never know... At least they are still together, no rumours of cheating, have five children.

The only thing that is strange is the fact of them still calling themselves "crown prince and princess", because that will never happen! I hope that Pavlos doesn't see or name himself as the "future king".

I hope this is not OT, but:

I can well understand your feelings about the defunct Greek royals, because of your family's history and bad experience. That makes a huge difference in opinions. I felt the same knowing how much my grandmother suffered and hated our "Kaiser" because of WWI, she lost her 19 year old son in that terrible war, which was so useless. She never got over it.

I had discussions with people who still idolize the "Kaiser" and I always  get upset.

I am glad that we have abolished the monarchy in Germany.

I am sorry for Annemarie to have lost her husband. They had a very long and probably of what we know, happy marriage.

[periwinkle]

Pavlos and MC were set up in a rich person’s meet-cute for sure. A Greek royalist who was buds with her dad arranged it at a fancy dinner. That said I think they are well matched. I suspect they are neither one terribly intelligent but aligned in their quest to have a big family life at the highest level of living. He has taken to the money and she has taken to dressing up for royal events.

[jessmie]

So he is being buried as a private citizen then, no state funeral?

Yes, albeit a private citizen with a heck of a story.

I don't follow Greek politics but that was really arrogant and ballsy for P&N to ask for a state funeral. Even I know that would not go over well.

I think they asked for the maximum they could get, and at least they got something and didn’t leave empty handed. Realistically, I don’t understand how they could have hoped for more. If they did, they are delusional. They are young people, they should know how things work.