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« Reply #330 on: January 17, 2023, 02:43:03 AM »

Every photo of Nikolaos shatters my heart into a million pieces...the poor man is feeling this so much.

Everyone in the family is feeling this so much.

He may not have been the King of Greece anymore, but he was definitely the King of his family's hearts.
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« Reply #331 on: January 17, 2023, 02:53:39 AM »

Maxima stayed a catholic but agreed to raise her children as protestants. I think Noor's daughter the unmarried one accompanied her. Ernst August and his wife were both there.

she did?

Well, there you have it, that explains her headscarf then.

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« Reply #332 on: January 17, 2023, 04:48:02 AM »

My bf heard Pavlos' eulogy and told me this was no closure but an "opening" that he might be king and that nothing has changed for them.

 Star onar and Jessmie for the background history

did you also hear that Pavlov and MC are moving to Athens. I read this on social media, not sure if it is true or not.

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« Reply #333 on: January 17, 2023, 05:30:51 AM »

I have a question.

Can someone tell me how ex king supported his family all these years after he was deposed, please?

did he receive lots of money from lots of people over the years? or he had money?

thx.

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« Reply #334 on: January 17, 2023, 09:15:38 AM »

I don't find Max's wearing a mantilla to be objectionable. I had always heard that women were expected to have their heads covered at Orthodox churches. And I notice that Queen Sofia had one that appeared to have slid off her hair and was more or less draped around her neck.

I love the elegant austerity of all that black clothing.

I wish Anne-Marie many years of good health, happiness with her family, and some future fun adventures. I know first hand how hard it is with a husband in failing health and how much that has taken from her.
Not according to greek orthodox church but to russian one. We don't cover our heads - actually is an insult to have our heads covered, males and females.

Roman Catholics also cover their heads (either hat, mostly chapel veils/head scarves)

unmarried women = white; married women = black




But Maxima converted to Protestantism when marrying Willem, so I don't why she's wearing one.



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Born into a  Dutch Catholic family (not active anymore), but to us covering your head was uncommon and/or old practice. We were surprised by an Armenian (?) Catholic Family of whom the women covered their heads in a veil (in our local church). So it depends among Catholics.

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As far as I know Maxima never converted. Acoording to the story she remained Catholic, but her children would be brought up/raised in the Protestantism.
I have never heard the news that Max ever converted later on.
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« Reply #335 on: January 17, 2023, 09:34:17 AM »

I don't find Max's wearing a mantilla to be objectionable. I had always heard that women were expected to have their heads covered at Orthodox churches. And I notice that Queen Sofia had one that appeared to have slid off her hair and was more or less draped around her neck.

I love the elegant austerity of all that black clothing.

I wish Anne-Marie many years of good health, happiness with her family, and some future fun adventures. I know first hand how hard it is with a husband in failing health and how much that has taken from her.
Not according to greek orthodox church but to russian one. We don't cover our heads - actually is an insult to have our heads covered, males and females.

Roman Catholics also cover their heads (either hat, mostly chapel veils/head scarves)

unmarried women = white; married women = black




But Maxima converted to Protestantism when marrying Willem, so I don't why she's wearing one.



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Born into a  Dutch Catholic family (not active anymore), but to us covering your head was uncommon and/or old practice. We were surprised by an Armenian (?) Catholic Family of whom the women covered their heads in a veil (in our local church). So it depends among Catholics.

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As far as I know Maxima never converted. Acoording to the story she remained Catholic, but her children would be brought up/raised in the Protestantism.
I have never heard the news that Max ever converted later on.

No she didn't. I remember the wedding, the pastor talked about it.
I´m active catholic and I would never cover my head or saw a woman doing it. Since the Vatican II Council it is not usual anymore. To me it is a royal thing. Wink
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« Reply #336 on: January 17, 2023, 09:34:24 AM »

I have a question.

Can someone tell me how ex king supported his family all these years after he was deposed, please?

did he receive lots of money from lots of people over the years? or he had money?

thx.

G Smiley

Charity of rich friends, selling artefacts own by the family (jewellery and art objects) accounts that the family had out of Greece, all his sons married money, help from the Danish RF and work.
Pure speculation on my part though
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« Reply #337 on: January 17, 2023, 09:37:30 AM »

I don't find Max's wearing a mantilla to be objectionable. I had always heard that women were expected to have their heads covered at Orthodox churches. And I notice that Queen Sofia had one that appeared to have slid off her hair and was more or less draped around her neck.

I love the elegant austerity of all that black clothing.

I wish Anne-Marie many years of good health, happiness with her family, and some future fun adventures. I know first hand how hard it is with a husband in failing health and how much that has taken from her.
Not according to greek orthodox church but to russian one. We don't cover our heads - actually is an insult to have our heads covered, males and females.

Roman Catholics also cover their heads (either hat, mostly chapel veils/head scarves)

unmarried women = white; married women = black




But Maxima converted to Protestantism when marrying Willem, so I don't why she's wearing one.



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Born into a  Dutch Catholic family (not active anymore), but to us covering your head was uncommon and/or old practice. We were surprised by an Armenian (?) Catholic Family of whom the women covered their heads in a veil (in our local church). So it depends among Catholics.

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As far as I know Maxima never converted. Acoording to the story she remained Catholic, but her children would be brought up/raised in the Protestantism.
I have never heard the news that Max ever converted later on.

No she didn't. I remember the wedding, the pastor talked about it.
I active catholic and I would never cover my head or saw a woman doing it. Since the Vatican II Council it is not usual anymore. To me it is a royal thing. Wink
My grandma generation covered themselves with a sort of mantilla vail. My mother is in her 60s never wore one. But I know some Latins(catholics) here still do.I think is a thing that we left in the past
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« Reply #338 on: January 17, 2023, 11:47:00 AM »

Maxima's veil looked okay but I disliked her bulky boots, distracting and too robust to go with the rest of her outfit.
There were more women with their head covered with the veil,





Decorations and medals





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« Reply #339 on: January 17, 2023, 12:17:49 PM »


What a legacy, King Constantine.

Father and grandfather (and maybe great grandfather) to many.
Uncle and great uncle to Spanish and Danish monarchy.

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« Reply #340 on: January 17, 2023, 12:37:35 PM »

I remember it as, when entering a RC church, 'men hats off' and 'women hats on' - or indeed a headscarf, or some sort of veil.
In 'heavy' conservative branches of protestantism/calvinism in Holland it is still common practice today for girls and women to wear hats to church.

Appartently the practice is based on 1 Corinthians 11: 3-10.


As for Max's boots: they were too clunky for the service but a clever choice for the burial.
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« Reply #341 on: January 17, 2023, 01:33:10 PM »

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In re: Máxima's footwear, Philippos' wife also chose to wear them but had a nice long skirt to cover the boot tops; also chose suede which is less glaring than Max's shiny leather.  Win-win 👍
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« Reply #342 on: January 17, 2023, 02:55:31 PM »

I don't find Max's wearing a mantilla to be objectionable. I had always heard that women were expected to have their heads covered at Orthodox churches. And I notice that Queen Sofia had one that appeared to have slid off her hair and was more or less draped around her neck.

I love the elegant austerity of all that black clothing.

I wish Anne-Marie many years of good health, happiness with her family, and some future fun adventures. I know first hand how hard it is with a husband in failing health and how much that has taken from her.
Not according to greek orthodox church but to russian one. We don't cover our heads - actually is an insult to have our heads covered, males and females.

Roman Catholics also cover their heads (either hat, mostly chapel veils/head scarves)

unmarried women = white; married women = black




But Maxima converted to Protestantism when marrying Willem, so I don't why she's wearing one.



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Born into a  Dutch Catholic family (not active anymore), but to us covering your head was uncommon and/or old practice. We were surprised by an Armenian (?) Catholic Family of whom the women covered their heads in a veil (in our local church). So it depends among Catholics.



Different countries, different practices in the same religion, different cultures I guess. I know in Southern Germany, Austria, and Italy, elder women and young women wore a head scarf to church. In the country and also in the city. So yes, it depends on what kind of Roman Catholic community you belong to.

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« Reply #343 on: January 17, 2023, 03:12:51 PM »

Several women changed their shoes for the grave yard. Considering that they did not just walk outside to the grave, I imagine that was an easy and probably clever thing to do.
Max, however, chose these boots as part of hr outfit and would prolly have worn them for a completely city- service as well.
The boots with the trenchcoat gave a bit of a female soviet officer vibe, which I don't like, but at least it is a cohesive theme - just not for a funeral! And considering that she planned to wear the mantilla, even though this wasn't stricly necessary, she should have chosen a more conservative attire of which she has certainly several to choose from.
 
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« Reply #344 on: January 17, 2023, 03:24:41 PM »

Several women changed their shoes for the grave yard. Considering that they did not just walk outside to the grave, I imagine that was an easy and probably clever thing to do.
Max, however, chose these boots as part of hr outfit and would prolly have worn them for a completely city- service as well.
The boots with the trenchcoat gave a bit of a female soviet officer vibe, which I don't like, but at least it is a cohesive theme - just not for a funeral! And considering that she planned to wear the mantilla, even though this wasn't stricly necessary, she should have chosen a more conservative attire of which she has certainly several to choose from.
 

I could not believe what I was seeing with her clothes and husband too ... he looks like a frumpy mid level management guy and she like a woman going..... all that money 💰... Bea looks better.... and that is a stretch
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