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« Reply #345 on: January 17, 2023, 03:29:04 PM »

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« Reply #346 on: January 17, 2023, 03:29:37 PM »

Several women changed their shoes for the grave yard. Considering that they did not just walk outside to the grave, I imagine that was an easy and probably clever thing to do.
Max, however, chose these boots as part of hr outfit and would prolly have worn them for a completely city- service as well.
The boots with the trenchcoat gave a bit of a female soviet officer vibe, which I don't like, but at least it is a cohesive theme - just not for a funeral! And considering that she planned to wear the mantilla, even though this wasn't stricly necessary, she should have chosen a more conservative attire of which she has certainly several to choose from.
 

I could not believe what I was seeing with her clothes and husband too ... he looks like a frumpy mid level management guy and she like a woman going..... all that money 💰... Bea looks better.... and that is a stretch

  I loved seeing the return of Beatrix's lunch box hat and cape ensemble. It seems just like yesterday we were dishing on what snacks she kept in her hat.  Tongue
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« Reply #347 on: January 17, 2023, 06:20:20 PM »

I remember it as, when entering a RC church, 'men hats off' and 'women hats on' - or indeed a headscarf, or some sort of veil.
In 'heavy' conservative branches of protestantism/calvinism in Holland it is still common practice today for girls and women to wear hats to church.

Appartently the practice is based on 1 Corinthians 11: 3-10.


As for Max's boots: they were too clunky for the service but a clever choice for the burial.

I remember RC ladies used to wear what amounted to a lace doily on heads for church - light and it didn't muss your hair. That was also when Mass was in Latin . . .

We had a member in one of our churches who belonged to one of those conservative Presbyterian churches here in the US. She was in the choir and the ladies robes came with a head covering. I saw pictures and it rather actually rather nice looking and in keeping with the robes. I don't think it would fly now though.

I always wondered what was in the letter from Corinth to Paul that led to this convoluted passage in his return missive.

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« Reply #348 on: January 17, 2023, 07:18:28 PM »

I remember it as, when entering a RC church, 'men hats off' and 'women hats on' - or indeed a headscarf, or some sort of veil.
In 'heavy' conservative branches of protestantism/calvinism in Holland it is still common practice today for girls and women to wear hats to church.

Appartently the practice is based on 1 Corinthians 11: 3-10.


As for Max's boots: they were too clunky for the service but a clever choice for the burial.

I remember RC ladies used to wear what amounted to a lace doily on heads for church - light and it didn't muss your hair. That was also when Mass was in Latin . . .

We had a member in one of our churches who belonged to one of those conservative Presbyterian churches here in the US. She was in the choir and the ladies robes came with a head covering. I saw pictures and it rather actually rather nice looking and in keeping with the robes. I don't think it would fly now though.

I always wondered what was in the letter from Corinth to Paul that led to this convoluted passage in his return missive.




1 Corinthians 11:3–10

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3 But I want you to understand that dthe head of every man is Christ, ethe head of a wife1 is her husband,2 and fthe head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife3 who prays or gprophesies hwith her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same ias if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since jhe is the image and glory of God, but kwoman is the glory of man. 8 For lman was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but mwoman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.4



I am Romanian orthodox. Only married women should cover their hair, at least here. We actually have a tradition during the wedding party where the godmother takes off the bride’s veil and replaces it with a headscarf to symbolize her transition from maid to wife.
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« Reply #349 on: January 17, 2023, 07:43:43 PM »

We (rural South Germany) don't cover our hair, but a lot of old ladies have a hat on in winter :-).
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« Reply #350 on: January 17, 2023, 08:08:20 PM »

I remember it as, when entering a RC church, 'men hats off' and 'women hats on' - or indeed a headscarf, or some sort of veil.
In 'heavy' conservative branches of protestantism/calvinism in Holland it is still common practice today for girls and women to wear hats to church.

Appartently the practice is based on 1 Corinthians 11: 3-10.


As for Max's boots: they were too clunky for the service but a clever choice for the burial.

I remember RC ladies used to wear what amounted to a lace doily on heads for church - light and it didn't muss your hair. That was also when Mass was in Latin . . .

We had a member in one of our churches who belonged to one of those conservative Presbyterian churches here in the US. She was in the choir and the ladies robes came with a head covering. I saw pictures and it rather actually rather nice looking and in keeping with the robes. I don't think it would fly now though.

I always wondered what was in the letter from Corinth to Paul that led to this convoluted passage in his return missive.




1 Corinthians 11:3–10

ESV

3 But I want you to understand that dthe head of every man is Christ, ethe head of a wife1 is her husband,2 and fthe head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife3 who prays or gprophesies hwith her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same ias if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since jhe is the image and glory of God, but kwoman is the glory of man. 8 For lman was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but mwoman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.4



I am Romanian orthodox. Only married women should cover their hair, at least here. We actually have a tradition during the wedding party where the godmother takes off the bride’s veil and replaces it with a headscarf to symbolize her transition from maid to wife.

Hubby's (TKotB) family is a mixture of Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Byzantine Catholic, Lutheran and Annabaptist. At his youngest sister's wedding reception they did the removing of the veil and replacement with the headscarf, then she was given a broom to sweep around the groom as he sat in a chair.
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« Reply #351 on: January 17, 2023, 09:22:26 PM »

When I went to my kids' dad's RC funeral mass -- ex-husband of many years standing -- I wore a mantilla. And one of the reasons was that I was afraid I might cry and wanted to be able to retreat away from prying eyes if I did. Plus, I wasn't sure to what degree his big extended Italian family was observant of such things as head coverings. I do know that in a lot of conservative RC circles, veiling of women has enjoyed a huge resurgence.  I always went to mass bare-headed ever after Vatican II and so do most of my friends of my vintage. But in some conservative parishes . . . .
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« Reply #352 on: January 17, 2023, 10:12:11 PM »

We (rural South Germany) don't cover our hair, but a lot of old ladies have a hat on in winter :-).
LOL, that would be me!
And for some jewish orthodox women it is custom to shave their heads.
But covering her head or rather hair is a age-old custom for many ethnicities and religions, as a woman's hair is most often considered her crowning glory and thus should be covered and reserved for her husband.
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« Reply #353 on: January 18, 2023, 04:12:31 AM »

I took some time to review the 8-hour live coverage which is still on YT.
Was moved by the dignity and love shown in all the ceremonial and arrangements, both formal and of family.
Also by the crowd's kind reception of Anne Marie, and Queen Sofia and indeed other royalty.

Glad I watched it.
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« Reply #354 on: January 18, 2023, 10:27:32 AM »


Excuse my ignorance but why are they on their knees?
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« Reply #355 on: January 18, 2023, 10:38:28 AM »

praying, I guess?
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« Reply #356 on: January 18, 2023, 10:42:07 AM »


I’m thinking it is because a funeral involves kneeling down at some point.... but different religions do things differently.... Catholic for one and Anglican and others .... I’ve been to several over the years... the last was Uniting Church...
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« Reply #357 on: January 18, 2023, 10:47:58 AM »

From what I remember from school, is the last prayer for the dead is about respect of said dead person.
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« Reply #358 on: January 18, 2023, 05:27:18 PM »

They all seemed to be leaving the Hotel Grande Bretagne today. Maybe they've all checked out or gone for a walk. AM was using a cane. Maybe it wasn't hers because she seemed to walking normally.
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« Reply #359 on: January 18, 2023, 06:47:57 PM »

I remember it as, when entering a RC church, 'men hats off' and 'women hats on' - or indeed a headscarf, or some sort of veil.
In 'heavy' conservative branches of protestantism/calvinism in Holland it is still common practice today for girls and women to wear hats to church.

Appartently the practice is based on 1 Corinthians 11: 3-10.


As for Max's boots: they were too clunky for the service but a clever choice for the burial.

I remember RC ladies used to wear what amounted to a lace doily on heads for church - light and it didn't muss your hair. That was also when Mass was in Latin . . .

We had a member in one of our churches who belonged to one of those conservative Presbyterian churches here in the US. She was in the choir and the ladies robes came with a head covering. I saw pictures and it rather actually rather nice looking and in keeping with the robes. I don't think it would fly now though.

I always wondered what was in the letter from Corinth to Paul that led to this convoluted passage in his return missive.




1 Corinthians 11:3–10

ESV

3 But I want you to understand that dthe head of every man is Christ, ethe head of a wife1 is her husband,2 and fthe head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife3 who prays or gprophesies hwith her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same ias if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since jhe is the image and glory of God, but kwoman is the glory of man. 8 For lman was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but mwoman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.4



I am Romanian orthodox. Only married women should cover their hair, at least here. We actually have a tradition during the wedding party where the godmother takes off the bride’s veil and replaces it with a headscarf to symbolize her transition from maid to wife.

I know very well what is in Paul's letters to the Corinthians. What I was wondering was the subject matter of the letter sent to Paul from the congregation in Corinth that sparked Paul to write what he did.
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