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So far they've had a funeral, and 3 memorial services. Any more to come?
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Andrew is not in the CC given his demotion. Same with any event or celebration, he may attend only in a private manner.
Will he be banned from all funerals of family from now on to avoid being seen? No, probably not. Should he use the backdoor entrances? Maybe. I think this is QEIIs mentality - it'll just go away if you wait long enough and don't discuss it.
I get it looks bad because Andrew is well Andrew and very problematic. But unless they're going to ship him off, he's going to keep popping up here and there.
I think that's all he's going to do: popp up on these sort of "family" things. confined. within the fold. not to any public charity or patron events again. he is a marked man. no matter how long you wait he will still be the same putrid fertiliser with his thinly veiled I'm royaltly, you know. can they totally ostracize him can they?  G  |
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ANDREW DENTON: Yes. What did... When you first met, what did you see in each other? CROWN PRINCE FREDERIK: What did we see in each other? We saw... Well, it's a bit hard. It's a bit blurry, in a way, because it was just after the Olympics had started and it was one of those evenings where...
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So far they've had a funeral, and 3 memorial services. Any more to come?
I think there have been more memorials than just three? Hopefully we have some Orthodox Dishers here to explain, but as I recall there are rituals held three, nine, and forty days after a funeral and more three, six and twelve months later. Then every three years? Boiled wheat is involved. But hopefully someone more knowledgeable will explain! |
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As far as the St George’s memorial service goes, I just keep remembering a column I read decades ago in I think Private Eye (so, you know, grain of salt and all that, but they do often know things) about how Prince Charles didn’t want to keep going to European royal events because he was so angry that he had to sit with the Crown Princes when he felt his peers were all Kings and now royals he considered his juniors were getting more precedence than him and he didn’t want to bow to people he considered his juniors. If the GRF had held a service and both Charles and Felipe attended Felipe would have precedence over Charles because he has been King longer. There’s no bowing between kings, but Felipe would get the slightly better seat, enter first, etc. I don’t think Charles can stomach that. By holding his own event he ensured that the BRF had their own side of the church where they could have their own internal precedence respected while all the foreign royals could follow the international royal rules on the other side of the church.
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Did any of the British royals attend the Greek orthodox service?
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I think there must be a line in the sand at some point because if it was a private I don’t care if William is not there. Maybe one of the children or him was sick or Cate had a bad day. Andrew there could be stomach better i guess. If it was public both William absence and Andrew presence is problematic. What I’m trying to said in the end is that we always criticised the Queen for being an ostrich but in reality Charles is the same hiding behind his sickness (which frankly I understand the difficulty of battling with cancer as I have a parent that is experiencing it). But if he can travel up a down to Sadigram to London he can tell his brother to stay home and his son to pull it together.
I think they were trying a classic fudge* with the public/private thing. It being in the CC makes it an official event, but they didn’t list Andrew by name in the CC. I think that shows they know that strictly speaking Andrew should not have been there, much less led the family walk to the chapel. But I don’t think the BRF understands why people are disgusted with Andrew, and keep hoping it will all blow over. They are very much on his side, but trying not to anger the public (nonces are public enemy #1 in Britain and the public are very angry). As far as Charles taking William to task, as soon as William became Prince of Wales Charles lost all his leverage. The system is set up so that the king can’t make his heir do whatever he wants, the heir has his own money, properties and position. So Charles can remonstrate with him but he has nothing to hold over William. *this kind of fudge is very common in England it’s how we ended up with a state church that is both (anglo) catholic and protestant, for example. so we will not hear why billy pulled out of a "very private affair" that was very public. G |
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Does anyone know who the woman is seated at the extreme right of the second row (behind Princess Irene)? I can name everyone in the first four rows except for her. |
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Andrew’s prominence emphasises that it’s an unofficial event…
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Pavlos' bushy mustache looks like two gray cotton balls under his nose. And that silly goatee ... I just want to grab a razor & creme and shave his face.
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Andrew’s prominence emphasises that it’s an unofficial event…
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Does anyone know who the woman is seated at the extreme right of the second row (behind Princess Irene)? I can name everyone in the first four rows except for her. Could it be Marie-Chantal's mother, or another inlaw? |
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Does anyone know who the woman is seated at the extreme right of the second row (behind Princess Irene)? I can name everyone in the first four rows except for her. Could it be Marie-Chantal's mother, or another inlaw? The DM said it was MC's mother, but she doesn't look like her at all. And why just her and not her husband as well? |
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