Principessa
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"...Neither Durek Verrett nor his spokesperson wishes to comment on the specific criticism, but spokesperson Simon Eriksen Valvik says that "Durek's business is based on his understanding and practice of shamanism".....- Durek is a spiritual leader. The practice he fell outside of traditional medical licensing and regulation, says Valvik.....He further says that they do not discuss details of treatment methods publicly.....- Durek follows ethical guidelines in its practice and only engages in the treatment of children with the consent of guardians or healthcare personnel.."
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 Oh no. Exorcising children? I know you said outrageous but I wasn’t expecting that outrageous! I wonder if he has tried this on Martha Louise’s children? He needs to be stopped. Indeed Yikes! And check out the comments! He has totally gone insane.
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 Oh no. Exorcising children? I know you said outrageous but I wasn’t expecting that outrageous! I wonder if he has tried this on Martha Louise’s children? He needs to be stopped. Indeed Yikes! And check out the comments! I can’t believe (ok yes I can) that the narcissistic shaman is in the comments arguing with people telling him this is insane and dangerous. Though I think my favorite one is someone who wrote “If only there was a medallion or something that I could purchase to remove the ents from my child”  and ShamanDurek is right there to say “There is the white one”  Honestly I hope this gets raised in the Norwegian parliament, this conman is way too close to their head of state.
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Durek has replied to criticism about his recent message: "It's always the Norwegians..." https://www.vg.no/rampely...det-er-alltid-nordmenneneI translated this article with google but when posting it it was in Norwegian again. I understand that he blames the Norwegians of not being able to understand him, having no spirituality etc. I wonder how the situation will be once he is married to Märtha and they are living in Norway. I cannot imagine that he will ever stop. A German tabloid yesterday stated that the NRF would like for them to participate in some royal related duties, because of showing "diversity". That might just be speculation by the tabloids. So far I haven't seen any comments from them, and honestly, what could they do? They cannot do much because Märtha is old enough to chose her partner. Maybe it would be better if they moved to the US as soon as Märtha's children are old enough to have their own life. It must be quite embarassing for her daughters as well IMO
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What a lovely way to endear yourself to the people whose princess you're marrying  Norway has a pretty strong spiritual/religious history. From Norse mythology to paganism tk Christianity, as well as a rich religious diversity reflecting modern migration patterns. His comments seem pretty tone-deaf and ignorant.
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VanillaMoomin
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I think that the only possible responses from the NRF are to either sanction him (for example say he’s no longer welcome on royal property), sanction Martha Louise (take her title away) or to stay silent. They’ve tried the softly softly approach and all it’s led to is this. They would look so weak and foolish to try that again. Better silence than a weak response. Especially now he’s insulting the Norwegians and their “spirituality” (I think he really means the Norwegians aren’t gullible enough)
Although having said that I would respect Harald or Haakon if they came out with a clear throated condemnation of Durek’s behavior, say that child exorcism is beyond the pale and defending Norwegian spirituality. Even if it wasn’t coupled with a practical response, just condemning his words and actions would be something. Although then everyone would be asking why they allow someone so despicable to associate with them.
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getafix
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Bye-Bye MEDiana Who!!!!
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Durek has replied to criticism about his recent message: "It's always the Norwegians..." https://www.vg.no/rampely...det-er-alltid-nordmenneneI translated this article with google but when posting it it was in Norwegian again. I understand that he blames the Norwegians of not being able to understand him, having no spirituality etc.I wonder how the situation will be once he is married to Märtha and they are living in Norway. I cannot imagine that he will ever stop. A German tabloid yesterday stated that the NRF would like for them to participate in some royal related duties, because of showing "diversity". That might just be speculation by the tabloids. So far I haven't seen any comments from them, and honestly, what could they do? They cannot do much because Märtha is old enough to chose her partner. Maybe it would be better if they moved to the US as soon as Märtha's children are old enough to have their own life. It must be quite embarassing for her daughters as well IMO so lemme get this right. she's going about talking to angels and other invisible beings in the bottom of the garden...and he's going to be tripping ahead sprinkling soul dust on each and every norwegian he comes across.  right. yup. I wanna chippies wit dat. yup. I do.  G 
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ANDREW DENTON: Yes. What did... When you first met, what did you see in each other? CROWN PRINCE FREDERIK: What did we see in each other? We saw... Well, it's a bit hard. It's a bit blurry, in a way, because it was just after the Olympics had started and it was one of those evenings where...
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Paulina
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This is not good for the RF.
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The problem with incompetent, corrupt, fascist government is incompetence, corruption and fascism, not government (Jerome à Paris - paraphrased)
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I swear that I shudder every time I see there is news related to Martha Louise. It just gets worse and worse. Why can't she see that dude for the self-aggrandizing charlatan that he is?
I have mentioned earlier that I have friends here in California who once regarded her fiance as their personal shaman. Right there that made me distrust their judgment in any other matter. Eventually the friends came around and turned away from him, but apparently this guy has one of those perfect personalities for manipulating and exploiting the gullible. Which Martha Louise definitely is.
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Paulina
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He’s not insane. He’s a conman and manipulator, with tendencies toward cult leaders. There are numerous folks whose followers ended up in tragedy. Not saying he’s going there, but he has the personality of cult and it’s not a stretch to think he might want to start a “retreat center” in Norway.
Scandinavia has a collective mentality, which he could prey on.
Norways insistence of tolerance might not end well with this guy. RF never should have let that camel’s nose under the tent.
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The problem with incompetent, corrupt, fascist government is incompetence, corruption and fascism, not government (Jerome à Paris - paraphrased)
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getafix
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He’s not insane. He’s a conman and manipulator, with tendencies toward cult leaders. There are numerous folks whose followers ended up in tragedy. Not saying he’s going there, but he has the personality of cult and it’s not a stretch to think he might want to start a “retreat center” in Norway.
Scandinavia has a collective mentality, which he could prey on.
Norways insistence of tolerance might not end well with this guy. RF never should have let that camel’s nose under the tent.
this sounds straight out of Nordic crime series like Bridge or wallander  G 
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ANDREW DENTON: Yes. What did... When you first met, what did you see in each other? CROWN PRINCE FREDERIK: What did we see in each other? We saw... Well, it's a bit hard. It's a bit blurry, in a way, because it was just after the Olympics had started and it was one of those evenings where...
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Lady Alice
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And here’s the abuser isolating ML from her family. Lovely, taking a page out of a certain book.
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I wonder why ML goes along with this. She must see that it makes it more difficult for her parents who are now very old, her brother who works alot and has a sick wife and whos engagements gets dusturbed by shaman-questions whenever he is out and about, and in time also her niese who seems to be best friends with her daughters. Outwards it seems she gets on well with them all so why make it difficult for them, its so very selfish….or she is brainwashed…
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She's always been a selfish mess. They need to cut her loose and ban them from Norway. He's a menace and she supports his grifting and dangerous lies.
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"I would sooner have you hate me for telling you the truth than adore me for telling you lies." Pietro Aretino
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