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« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2024, 03:34:46 PM »

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The Emir of the State of Qatar and his wife are formally welcomed by King William-Alexander and Queen Máxima with a ceremony at the North End Palace.
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2024, 06:02:29 AM »

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WA, Max, and Amalia attended the wedding of Countess Leonie of Waldburg-Zeil-Hohenems and Count Caspar Matuschka in Austria
















There was a reception after the wedding.










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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2024, 09:13:34 AM »

those gray things look like a pair of flat mules in CA's hand.

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« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2024, 10:42:49 AM »

those gray things look like a pair of flat mules in CA's hand.

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They do! Sensible girl.
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« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2024, 01:06:19 PM »

She looks great.
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« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2024, 02:59:50 PM »

Max’s weight loss is phenomenal.
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« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2024, 03:04:04 PM »

Not especially needed IMO.

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« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2024, 08:40:47 PM »

Is it just me, or have WA and Max become increasingly irrelevant? I remember when I first got on RD, eagerly looking for postings about the two of them, and loving to see her fashions and to hear all the things she was doing, given her education and pre-royal professional background. Now'? She seems like a fading ingenue who is decorated with too many fancy jewels and high fashion clothing that her wealthy husband affords her. So my response these days is a big ho-hum, whatever . . . .
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« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2024, 10:00:16 PM »

I guess it’s a matter of interest but I don’t think the king and queen of the Netherlands can be irrelevant on a message board discussing monarchies and royalty..
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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2024, 10:57:29 PM »

Yes irrelevant is definitely not the right word. But I can also sense that she has lost some of her 'shine'. She has a great work-ethic but there is something off about her smiles and the bling-bling. To me this makes sense after the things that happened in her family. Also, empty-nest syndrome is a thing and I guess she is still adjusting to no longer having the kids around every day.

And then there is also the fast changing world. For example, a while back she said in one of her speeches that she finds it important that her daughters have to save up their money if they want to buy something expensive. A few years ago, people would found this cute because it seemed relatable. But in 2024 such a comment is tone deaf, especially considering how Amalia lived in one of Madrid's most exclusive areas etc.

I think she will find her groove again but sometimes I fear palace staff are not doing their jobs properly.



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« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2024, 12:42:48 AM »

I think younger and hipper couples are getting more coverage. That is the problem of the BRF at the moment - without Kate they are lacking the glam factor.

For them it would be helpful if Amalia was ready and just give short glimpses what will happen in future (like Leonor and Elizabeth). Plus: They seem to have the same pattern: Max turns up in some weird frock with messy hair, Wax is "invisible", Max makes it all about herself. You get tired watching them. She has toned down somewhat lately, we will see what will happen. Also Alexia had some nice events, so she has left the "wild teenage" year behind her - so less "scandal" = less headlines.
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« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2024, 03:20:49 AM »

Yes irrelevant is definitely not the right word. But I can also sense that she has lost some of her 'shine'. She has a great work-ethic but there is something off about her smiles and the bling-bling. To me this makes sense after the things that happened in her family. Also, empty-nest syndrome is a thing and I guess she is still adjusting to no longer having the kids around every day.

And then there is also the fast changing world. For example, a while back she said in one of her speeches that she finds it important that her daughters have to save up their money if they want to buy something expensive. A few years ago, people would found this cute because it seemed relatable. But in 2024 such a comment is tone deaf, especially considering how Amalia lived in one of Madrid's most exclusive areas etc.

I think she will find her groove again but sometimes I fear palace staff are not doing their jobs properly.





maximum comes acroos to me from non Netherlands audience as someone who has two speeds: on. never off. she is always so "On" like there is no room for anyone else to get a look in...

times a changing and she needs to adjust.

perhaps one of the reasons her daughter is having issues getting to limelight when mother got all of it? JMO

royalty today need to move with times or they become irrelevant...

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« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2024, 11:28:39 AM »

I think that for many years Willem and Máxima benefited from the good work of Queen Beatrix, she tied them down a bit... but after the abdication and with them taking control, they are showing themselves as two millionaires, who want to live a life of luxury surrounded by other millionaires and whose vision of the world is very far from what happens to the citizens of their country or in the world. Probably, the fact that they are quite protected by the press is not beneficial to them... sometimes good constructive criticism is necessary. It will be interesting to see how they handle themselves with the new government of the Netherlands.

Covid was probably the turning point, because of how they acted, breaking some rules, and because they are not knowing how to read the changes in society. That Amalia has decided to ask for her budget, when she barely has an institutional presence, has been very strange... especially in a Royal House with a good budget and in a family that is very rich.

On the other hand, it is evident that the princesses who came to the Royal Houses 20 years ago attracted a lot of attention, but now they are queens over 50 and are losing interest in favor of the young princesses and princes. But Willem and Máxima seem more interested in image than content... their scheduled photo sessions were understandable when the girls were little, but now that they're older, they seem like fashionable poses without any content.

With Amalia they do not seem to have a clear plan, they embarked her on a trip to the Caribbean for which she did not seem prepared and in which her mother directed the show, and they paraded her around galas and parties, wearing dresses and jewelry. If they see that she has difficulties, the logical thing would have been to do small events about a topic that she likes, with little press and in her country to learn little by little and for her citizens to see her.


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« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2024, 12:52:03 PM »

I think its certainly true that a press that isn't too curious or critical doesn't help in the long run - look at Spain, Belgium and to a degree the UK where the media are quite critical of the RF and quickly pick up on mistakes - even just perceived ones. It means the RFs look at everything through the eyes of "if the media find out..." and become accustomed to putting duty before personal enjoyment or personal benefit.

WA and Max IMO seem to think they should be perfectly entitled to live the life of billionaires but at public expense as if its some divine right. Their actions in Covid spoke volumes - in their eyes they were perfectly entitled to go on holiday at the same time the Prime Minister was telling people they shouldn't because technically it wasn't illegal. They don't understand the notion that the sovereign and their family should act to a higher standard and set a good example.

Beatrix certainly seemed much more professional and, like many of her generation, with a greater sense of duty. She - and her contemporaries also seemed to accept that they could enjoy very privileged lives so long as they were discreet and not ostentatious. Take for example QE2 - Balmoral and Sandringham are indeed a luxury in that they are stately homes beyond most people's wildest dreams and take a lot of cash to maintain - yet it was perceived as much less luxurious than if she's chartered a superyacht and sailed around the Med for 6 weeks over the summer. Similarly - Beatrix had her Italian holiday home that was a luxury but was always used discreetly and seemed much less ostentatious than the way WA & Max use their Greek house.
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« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2024, 10:01:48 PM »

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I believe there are many reasons that have led to this development. I think the main reason was stated by Maria (not 100% anymore who said it). Bea was conservative and reliable and it was nice to have a bit of "fresh air" with the crown prince couple. Now, as king and queen, people would like them more conservative.

When the kids were small, they had a cuteness factor and the photo shoots made sense. Then, they had the weirdest of footshoots with the kids presenting themself fully entitled and the colours and styles were all mixed. They have learned from that. They should have "abandoned" that concept long ago.

To me, personally, the family always seemed a bit entitled. When Friso died everyone said what a great tragedy it was and how experienced he was. It was a great tragedy, no doubt, at the same time there was a severe avalange warning (and he and his partner wore some protection against avalanges, that just did not work for him), so they were aware of the risk. And sorry - a Dutch investmentbanker living in London can't have that much experience in endangering himself because there are no comparable mountains in the Netherlands or near London. Here was, again, an example how the familiy broke rules - the results were devestating for Friso's whole family.

Then about Amalia moving into the center of Amsterdam. I wonder if they ran the plan by someone? Angela Merkel, the former German chancellor, stubbornly refused to move out of her modest, rented, three room apartment in central Berlin. There were 20 apartments in the house and it turned out to be a whole security nightmare. Soon flocks or tourists showed up every morning (she always greeted them really nice) to meet her before she took of to work, they eventually vacated all the flats around her to prevent someone shooting her through the wall and it would have been way easier for everyone if she moved. You can't protect someone in the heart of Amsterdam. It is too densly populated, too many tourists and people will figure out where she lives. Bad concept IMO.

About Amalia. Amalia is a beautiful, clever young woman but she is clearly not ready to represent yet. While she is in training (and hardly ever seen doing small jobs) she should not receive the full apanage whether entitled to it or not. It does not help the situation that she, when she is seen, is often in some designer clothes at some high end events. As she is not a kid anymore she should either start doing small events (like Leonor or Elizatbeth of Belgium - or even Estelle and George) or nearly completely disappear of the radar with occasional public appearances (like IA).

During Covid the whole family lost so much popularity by clearly showing "your rules are not our rules"). Did they every mingle with "normal Dutch people" - we remember how the Belgians won us over by baking waffles and delivering them personally,  or Will and Kate helping out in a food bank or something.  Expensive boarding schools for the girls and posing does not help.

Other royal families you see doing everyday stuff (KCIII goes to church and can be approached there within reason,
Mathilde walks with mentally challenged people, Felipe and Leti support tourism by holidaying in their country, the Swedes are promoting their traditions (like collecting the Christmas trees) - the Dutch only seem to do high end stuff which comes across entitled.

Having said that: I see some really positive development in Alexia - so there is hope. 
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