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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2007, 09:41:11 PM »

With the new primogeniture constitutional changes it is inappropriate for the wife of a King to be called a Queen when the husband of the Queen cannot be called King. I hope The Netherlands goes ahead with keeping the spouse of the monarch as a Prince/Princess of The Netherlands and sets an example for all the other monarchies. At least call the spouse Prince/King/Princess/Queen Consort +name.

Good for you Henri- shame you felt obliged to change your name also when your "heiress" did not feel obligated to do the same.
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2007, 01:58:02 AM »

 I Well to be unfair  prefer  the commom born spouse of a Queen, King to be only a Prince Consort or a Prinsess Consort or because  in the past the wifes of the Kings, emperers were royal  born. Now with a number of  the upcoming generations  made "unequal" marriages I thought it was weird to say "Crown  Prince Hakon and Crown Princess MM, or Mary they should have been designated as "Princess". I must admit Maxima is my fave so I think she should be made a Queen consort a " Deluxe Orange" Jumping
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2007, 09:23:18 AM »


According to EB, Henrik gave an interview to 'Point de Vue' and expressed his disappointment that he did not get the title king when he married Margrethe.
Another article:
Dry your eyes and forget it Henrik!
The Danesīs judgement is crushing:No,no and hell no! 21.925  voted on an ekstrabladet.dk. poll and  88% voted NO.Many asked said that Henrik was ridiculous and pathetic.
Message,dry your eyes Henrik and enjoy your privilledged royal existance as long as it exists!


Discussion such as the one outlined above, generally occur when " Change is in the Air ."
Henrik has shown his hand by discussing his regret/disappointment about not receiving the title King.

To an outside observer it looks like the DRF are playing " Musical Chairs " on the TITANIC.

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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2007, 08:26:39 PM »

With the new primogeniture constitutional changes it is inappropriate for the wife of a King to be called a Queen when the husband of the Queen cannot be called King. I hope The Netherlands goes ahead with keeping the spouse of the monarch as a Prince/Princess of The Netherlands and sets an example for all the other monarchies. At least call the spouse Prince/King/Princess/Queen Consort +name.


Yes, I totally agree, Avise.  It's both fair and logical.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2007, 12:00:27 AM »

I have always believed that different titles should be used for the different jobs held by various royals.  In my own world I would have the following:

'King/Queen' and the spouse would be 'Crown Princess/Prince'. 

The heir to the throne would be 'Hereditary Prince/Princess' and married to a 'Princess/Prince'. 

All other children and spouses would be Princes/Princesses (Dukes/Duchesses, Counts/Countesses, etc).

'Sovereign Princes/Princesses' of Prinicipalities would have their spouses known simply as 'Prince/Princess'.

Just a thought  Whistle
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2007, 02:21:30 AM »

its a damn shame that France got rid of their monarchy - including their new one made by Napoleon Wink

otherwise, Kroner Henrik could have been Emperor of France too Grin

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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2007, 05:51:51 PM »

It appears that Henrik(Iīm sure he now regrets changing his name from Henri Cry   ) was very outspoken in the past about gender roles in the family.To quote him:
In the 70īs
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In my opinion,the family is most happy if it is the man in charge/control.There are duties in a house that only a woman can handle;childcare,cooking and the like.8-16 jobs are not for women.
-Children are like dogs or horses.With a beating/thrashing,thats how it should be,


1999-interview with BB on his 65 birthday:
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-People have become used to seeing P.Henrik like a puppy that just follows along and gets sugar(maybe a bone?)  now and then.
-Danes do not value/consider my work for Denmark and the diffferent things I am involved as anything special.People have considered me as a zero

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After the KUR for diplomats,he said to BT that he felt humiliated and  discarded.This happened when the court put Fred to receive the diplomats presenting their new years greetings to the royal house and the regent couple.
Henrik felt that he could as well have received the diplomats as his wifeīs spouse together with her/their son,since he as a father and husband, was part of the host couple.By allowing the son to take over the function ,Henrik became irrelevant.Something he said had happened on other occassions.


After that(the diplomats KUR) he went into a self imposed exile to Cayx to sulk.From there he expressed his deep frustrations to BT  in connection with being number 3 in the royal house

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For many years I have been number 2 in Denmark.It is a role I am very content with,but I will not after so many years see myself degraded to number 3 like a nobody.

Since then, the court has done all it can to indulge Henrik,which means that he now appears right after the queen on the courtīs website and is always placed side by side with QM on official occasions,whilst Fred is in third place.
 



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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2007, 07:47:24 PM »

Before we all take a swipe at Hen for his antediluvian views, I would like to say that I don't think Marg is any better.  She married him knowing he is of a patriarchal mindset.

Also, I bet if she had shown some initiative on the issue, DK would now be like Norway, Sweden and Belgium and make the first-born the heir.  She has had decades to encourage such moving with the times in regard to women's roles and has done nothing.   Thumb down

Contrast with the late queen Juliana who was a feminist and who had a female priest at her funeral at her express wish.

Everything about the Danish court seems very old-fashioned in the worst way.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2007, 08:44:57 PM »

Before we all take a swipe at Hen for his antediluvian views, I would like to say that I don't think Marg is any better.  She married him knowing he is of a patriarchal mindset.

Also, I bet if she had shown some initiative on the issue, DK would now be like Norway, Sweden and Belgium and make the first-born the heir.  She has had decades to encourage such moving with the times in regard to women's roles and has done nothing.   Thumb down

Contrast with the late queen Juliana who was a feminist and who had a female priest at her funeral at her express wish.

Everything about the Danish court seems very old-fashioned in the worst way.

 You can also see It with the engagement Mary is taking, they are the stereotipical isuess for woman: children and wellfare Thumb down Snare Crap
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2007, 12:24:37 AM »

Before we all take a swipe at Hen for his antediluvian views, I would like to say that I don't think Marg is any better.  She married him knowing he is of a patriarchal mindset.

Also, I bet if she had shown some initiative on the issue, DK would now be like Norway, Sweden and Belgium and make the first-born the heir.  She has had decades to encourage such moving with the times in regard to women's roles and has done nothing.   Thumb down

Contrast with the late queen Juliana who was a feminist and who had a female priest at her funeral at her express wish.

Everything about the Danish court seems very old-fashioned in the worst way.

I agree with your thoughts but must note that Hen was well aware of the system into which he was marrying.   Perhaps he was looking to England and hoping for Daisy to eventually issue a L.P. giving him place, pre-eminence and precedence next to the Queen on all occasions and in all meetings, except where otherwise provided by Act of Parliament. That would make Henrik the first gentleman of the land, and give him precedence over Freddy except, officially, in Parliament.
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2007, 07:57:20 AM »

Well, with regard to UK, it is interesting to note that Philip does not   have the tirle "consort".  QE2 could have given it to him, as Victoria did to Albert, and she was expected to do so, but she never has granted him that honour... Secret
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2007, 08:08:43 AM »


 You can also see It with the engagement Mary is taking, they are the stereotipical isuess for woman: children and wellfare Thumb down Snare Crap

I totally agree, but the less "traditional" thing is that it seems just about only the females work!  Fred is too busy sailing to undertake almost anything at all in terms of engagements!
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2007, 10:38:04 AM »

Of course Daisy could change her spouses status, if she thought it warranted it. When Henrik retreated to Caix in a huff last time, he was appeased by the addition of the prefix 'consort' to his name, prior to that he was just plain 'prince', so an extra 'handle', King for example should be within the realms of feasible! Awarding themselves various accolades for services not rendered seems to be part of the royal circus anyway, one more would not make a great deal of difference, but would just confirm their love of cultivating petty, and superficial indulgences!  Crazy

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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2007, 10:12:06 AM »

(from an interview in the 70)
In my opinion,the family is most happy if it is the man in charge/control.There are duties in a house that only a woman can handle;childcare,cooking and the like.8-16 jobs are not for women.
-Children are like dogs or horses.With a beating/thrashing,thats how it should be,


Well quite frankly, if he beats the children as well as the dogs I wouldn't let him anywhere near "childcare" and since at least one dog mysteriously disappeared I wouldn't trust this confessed "animal lover" (yummy doggies) with the cooking.  Dead

Also in his opinion a family is most happy if it is him in charge, which might very well be a delusional point of view.
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1999-interview with BB on his 65 birthday:
-People have become used to seeing P.Henrik like a puppy that just follows along and gets sugar(maybe a bone?)  now and then.
-Danes do not value/consider my work for Denmark and the diffferent things I am involved as anything special.People have considered me as a zero
Cooking dogs and beating children, not valued? Denmark, how could you? Yikes
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After the KUR for diplomats,he said to BT that he felt humiliated and  discarded.This happened when the court put Fred to receive the diplomats presenting their new years greetings to the royal house and the regent couple.
Henrik felt that he could as well have received the diplomats as his wifeīs spouse together with her/their son,since he as a father and husband, was part of the host couple.By allowing the son to take over the function ,Henrik became irrelevant.Something he said had happened on other occassions.


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For many years I have been number 2 in Denmark.It is a role I am very content with,but I will not after so many years see myself degraded to number 3 like a nobody.

Since then, the court has done all it can to indulge Henrik,which means that he now appears right after the queen on the courtīs website and is always placed side by side with QM on official occasions,whilst Fred is in third place.

Well it must be tough cookie to be degraded below 10watt Fred. However, he is the crownprince and thats the first in line to the throne and the throne is all that counts. Snare

Heavens, how discarded will M.le Wannabe roi feel when he is no# (?) 5 ? After his wife's and souvereign's passing and his son's accession to the throne with Mary and the little "a bit of trashing and beating does them good" brats?
 




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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2007, 06:41:11 AM »

http://ekstrabladet.dk/fl...ngelige/article290805.ece

Henrik has announced that he has no intention of incarcerating himself in Chateau Cayx in Cahors when/if Daisy chucks her hand in and decides to become a pensioner, and Mosh and Frex take over the oars.

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Quick thinking Henrik, -  there might be rumblings from the masses if he spent to much time down there jogging on his grapes, whilst they foot (!) the bills, - nothing like keeping your options open! Come to think of it, he's pretty much absent without leave now..........normal really, and in keeping with the best traditions of the rest of the DRF, who appear to be setting a new precedent in inactivity!  Crap

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