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« Reply #765 on: March 15, 2017, 07:43:58 PM »

I don't remember ever reading or seeing anything that suggested that he wasn't close with Alexandra. But then, the whole family came across as much closer pre Mosh.

Not saying that all Asian countries are the same (they're obviously not, just like all African and all European countries aren't), but Henrik also has ties to Asia so he's not alien to that part of the world.

It's not that Marie is French born and Mosh isn't - it's that Marie is nice and Mosh isn't.
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« Reply #766 on: March 15, 2017, 08:26:08 PM »

Regarding the relationships between Henrik and his daughters-in-law, I remember when I first started paying attention to the Danish royals in around 2001 and the harsh comments Frederik made about his parenting and his father in particular. I've never gotten the sense that the relationship between father and son has been fully healed. If there's distance between father and one son, it does make sense that son's wife isn't as close to father as the other son's wife.


Mmmm no I disagree. Henrik is a snob, Marie is quite upper-class and Mary is from a pretty downmarket background compared to Marie. Taking into account that Marie is French, and a very warm person, explains the apparent difference here.

This made me wonder about Henrik around Alexandra. How was he with his first daughter-in-law? Close? Cold? She's neither French nor Western and from a relatively humble Far East Asian background...

I remember seeing Henrik quite civil with Mary earlier on, and not so snobbishly avoiding like now (although the now includes Marie when before no Marie, so Henrik has another dil to gravitate towards).




I think he liked Alexandra quite a lot during her marriage with Joachim.



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« Reply #767 on: March 15, 2017, 08:29:06 PM »

I don't get the feeling that Henrik prefers Marie due to her being French.  As someone said above, he appeared warm and friendly toward Mosh in the beginning.  I think he liked Alex and Marie simply because they were probably always warm and friendly toward him.  Mosh has never appeared that way, and I'm sure that like most people, it gets rather annoying when you're nice to someone and they're consistently cold toward you in return. 
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« Reply #768 on: March 15, 2017, 09:24:13 PM »

I think it is a mixture of both. Henri has been acting very strange lately anyway, whatever the reason is. I think he is French to the core. That Marie is French is appealing to him. She seems to be friendly, elegant and good fun - that is another reason for him to like her.

Alex kind of knew what people expected of her and she grew into that role very fast. It was just that Jokke and her were not a really good match - was it Maria who once said that if the press had not gotten wind of it, it might have blown over without a marriage? I totally agree. I think Alex was very eager to fulfill the role as future princess and in fairness, she was ... her unfortunate choices came after the divorce. Plus she was the mom to Henrik's first two grandchildren ... so I guess that warmed him for her.

If I was Henrik I would not be very found of any of the Frodo clan. Starting with Frodo himself: While Daisy at times can't stand with backpains Frodo is taking things very easy ... His 76 year old mom works hard while Frodo is hardly seen. If he was ready for his role, it would be easier for Daisy as well to sneak to France for the odd week while Frodo was running the show. But Frodo is a lost case. Mary is not nice ... very ambitious and pushy so I think Henri sees through her ... The kids seem very wild, at least at times. So I think it is easier to be drawn to the Shaks - they seem to be more fun anyway.

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« Reply #769 on: March 15, 2017, 09:47:26 PM »


I think he liked Alexandra quite a lot during her marriage with Joachim.


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« Reply #770 on: March 19, 2017, 05:10:46 AM »


Svenskdam.se has an article and VIDEO (didn't watch it b/c I cannot figure out Swedish) @ 6:20

can some of our Swedish dishers have a peek and see what's up?  Wink




The rift between Mary and Marie: "The relationship has become frostier and frostier"
In the past, the Danish Crown Princess Mary and Princess Marie were seen as sisters, but something has happened between them. Mary celebrated her birthday in February and as example, Marie was not even invited.
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« Reply #771 on: March 19, 2017, 08:41:58 AM »

Swedish is a much nicer language to listen to than Danish! I listened to the whole thing, understanding about every tenth word! : )
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« Reply #772 on: March 19, 2017, 09:57:50 AM »

Swedish is a much nicer language to listen to than Danish! I listened to the whole thing, understanding about every tenth word! : )
Every tenth word? Congratulation! I understand ten words at most - og, med, mary, marie, princ harry, og, med Smiley Wink
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« Reply #773 on: March 26, 2017, 10:26:50 PM »

I've never understood this pressure for Marie and Mary to be friends anyway. I'm not friends with my sister-in-law and I view that as perfectly acceptable. It would be nice if we were, but at the end of the day, we don't really click and just because my brother chose to marry her doesn't mean I have to adore her and want to hang out with her in my free time.
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« Reply #774 on: March 26, 2017, 10:42:13 PM »

I've never understood this pressure for Marie and Mary to be friends anyway. I'm not friends with my sister-in-law and I view that as perfectly acceptable. It would be nice if we were, but at the end of the day, we don't really click and just because my brother chose to marry her doesn't mean I have to adore her and want to hang out with her in my free time.
I agree. And tbh, I don't think there is any real pressure, only the media that needs any kind of story only to write something.
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« Reply #775 on: March 27, 2017, 01:11:11 AM »

I find it very telling that Fred seems to like Marie.  They get along very well.  Jokke, on the other hand, appears to vehemently dislike Mary. 
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« Reply #776 on: March 27, 2017, 01:25:39 AM »


Fred seems to get along with every other person but Mary.   

Mary's insecurities are her worst enemies.  Makes her avoid or show up others.
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« Reply #777 on: March 27, 2017, 02:33:50 AM »


Fred seems to get along with every other person but Mary.   

Mary's insecurities are her worst enemies.  Makes her avoid or show up others.
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« Reply #778 on: March 27, 2017, 05:28:27 PM »


Fred seems to get along with every other person but Mary.   

Mary's insecurities are her worst enemies.  Makes her avoid or show up others.

And that's why it's ridiculous that she is allowed to behave so badly.  This idiot has access to nothing but the best mental health counselors in the world, yet she chooses not to do anything about it.  Instead, she acts like a jackass.  She's continually inappropriate and it's nobody's fault but her own. 

Having insecurities does not excuse her ridiculous behavior.  It also shouldn't earn her any sympathy.  Her sugary fan girls need to understand that there is no excuse for her behavior at all. 

It really irritates me to no end that she behaves this way and treats her children terribly.  She didn't annoy me until I started to look more closely at her when she was around Isabella.  I have zero respect for anybody who is cruel to their children.  Her mother in law was notoriously cruel to Fred and Jokke when they were young, and that is the main reason why I have zero respect for Marge. 
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« Reply #779 on: March 28, 2017, 12:14:43 AM »

^ Yes. She's one of the weirdest people I ever saw in my whole life. Her bullying of Fred, dislike of Isabella and her parents and siblings in-law and their children (only having kids to keep Joachim and his family away from the throne), fake abdication news about Marge, camera-whoring, weird behavior, abuse of the freebies she gets, makes her a hypocrite, vain, creep, jealous and a bully. If you take a closer look, she's one of the people unqualified to be crown princess, let alone a queen. She's the epitome of what a person shouldn't be, and one of the few people around the world that I dislike a lot.

Honestly, I used to like Mary when I heard about her and Fred's engagement back in 2003 (I wasn't a sugar, though). I was happy that he was finally settling down like his brother. I though she was going to be a fresh air for the DRF (Because of my suspicions of J&A's upcoming divorce). After they got married though, I figured Mary was acting weird and much later I discovered her bogan face. It was there all the time and I didn't saw it the first time I saw her (I usually discover people's real intentions when I interact with them or watch them closely, but it didn't happen with Mary due to the fact that I was really happy and that weakened my suspicions)

I have to admit - Nice one Mosh, you managed to trick me once, but thanks to you, I learned my lesson and you won't be able to do it again. -Love (#HateYou), JessDawn.
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