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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2018, 01:53:07 PM »

I guess I’d like to see the source for these rankings. ‘Wealth’ can be described in many ways. For instance, the German aristos hold a great deal of land, which is highly illiquid and may be tied up such that it’s non-deployable: can’t be sold, only given away or inherited. That would mean that the value of those holdings is actually zero.
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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2019, 06:18:55 PM »

According to the Sunday Times, these are the richest aristocrats in the UK. The Queen is only 17th!
I wonder if any continental aristocrats can match these figures.

1. The Duke of Westminster and the Grosvenor family - £9.964 billion
2. Earl Cadogan and family - £6.7 billion
3. Baroness Howard de Walden and family - £4.015 billion
4. Lady Charlotte Wellesley - £3.259 billion
5. Viscount Portman and family - £2.003 billion
6. Robert Miller and Princess Marie-Chantal and family - £2 billion
7. The Earl of Iveagh and the Guinness family - £922 million
8. Viscount Rothermere and family - £900 million
9. The Duke of Devonshire - £880 million
10. Prince Jonathan and Princess Gesine Doria Pamphilj - £775 million
11. Lord Rothschild - £755 million
12. Lord Vestey and family - £728 million
13. The Duke of Bedford - £727 million
14. The Duke of Sutherland - £585 million
15. Charlotte Townshend - £460 million
16. The Duke of Northumberland - £382 million
17. The Queen - £370 million
18. The Marquess of Salisbury - £343 million
19. Lord Iliffe and family - £297 million
20. Viscount Astor and family - £250 million
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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2019, 08:29:37 PM »

Here is a list for Germany you might be interested in!

Andreas von Bechtolsheim * 5.000 Million Euro
Familie August von Finck * 5.000 Million Euro
Wilhelm von Finck jr. * 1.800 Million Euro
Familie von Metzler * 1.200 Million Euro
Stefan von Holtzbrinck * 1.150 Million Euro
Georg von Opel * 700 Million Euro
Familie Waldburg-Zeil * 650 Million Euro
Familie zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg * 600 Million Euro
Familie von Thurn und Taxis * 550 Million Euro
Georg Enoch von und zu Guttenberg * 500 Million Euro
Anton Wolfgang von Faber-Castell * 450 Million Euro
Botho von Schwarzkopf * 400 Million Euro
Dieter von Holtzbrinck * 400 Million Euro
Ernst August von Hannover * 350 Million Euro
Familie zu Fürstenberg * 350 Million Euro
Familie Castell-Castell * 300 Million Euro
Familie Castell-Rüdenhausen * 300 Million Euro
Familie Graf von Hardenberg * 300 Million Euro
Familie von Bismarck * 300 Million Euro
Familie zu Waldburg-Wolfegg und Waldsee * 300 Million Euro
Edler von Resch * 250 Million Euro
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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2019, 08:36:11 PM »

Wow, Bene's family is almost twice as rich as the Hannovers. Surprise to me!
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2020, 04:32:50 PM »

Royals and nobles in Bild's 2019 rich list:

Andreas von Bechtolsheim   5,4 Mrd, €
Familie August von Finck   4,8 Mrd, €
Wilhelm von Finck jr,   1,95 Mrd, €
Elisabeth von Auersperg-Breuner   1,45 Mrd, €
Stefan von Holtzbrinck   1,45 Mrd, €
Familie von Mitschke-Collande   1,25 Mrd, €
Familie von Metzler   1,15 Mrd, €
Familie von Gemmingen   1 Mrd, €
Familie zu Waldburg-Zeil   0,95 Mrd, €
Familie Karl Friedrich von Hohenzollern   0,8 Mrd, €
Albert und Gloria von Thurn und Taxis   0,7 Mrd, €
Familie Heinrich Donatus von Hessen   0,6 Mrd, €
Familie zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg   0,6 Mrd, €
Familie von Faber-Castell   0,55 Mrd, €
Familie zu Fürstenberg   0,45 Mrd, €
Familie Castell-Castell   0,4 Mrd, €
Familie von und zu Guttenberg   0,4 Mrd, €
Familie zu Waldburg-Wolfegg und Waldsee   0,4 Mrd, €
Familie von Resch   0,4 Mrd, €
Dieter von Holtzbrinck   0,4 Mrd, €
Familie Castell-Rüdenhausen   0,4 Mrd, €
Familie Andreas zu Leiningen   0,4 Mrd, €
Familie Wrede   0,3 Mrd, €
Familie von Brandenstein-Zeppelin   0,25 Mrd, €
Familie von Alten   0,25 Mrd, €
Familie von Nordeck   0,25 Mrd, €
Daniel Terberger (husband of Duchess Elisabeth in Bavaria)   0,25 Mrd, €
Familie Graf von Hardenberg   0,2 Mrd, €
Familie von Braunbehrens   0,2 Mrd, €
Familie von Seidlein   0,2 Mrd, €
Familien Eckernkamp-Vogel, Pugmeister und von Wangenheim   0,2 Mrd, €
Ernst August von Hannover   0,2 Mrd, €
Familie von Trotha-Witzenmann   0,2 Mrd, €
Familie von Bismarck   0,15 Mrd, €
Familie Eberhard von Kuenheim   0,15 Mrd, €
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2020, 05:01:01 PM »

At first I couldn't find the one at the top at the list, until I encountered the name Andy Bechtolsheim. Apparently his full name is: Andreas Maria Maximilian Freiherr von Mauchenheim genannt Bechtolsheim

About his name in the US he stated:
"...My legal name is the same it always was. The problem with the von is that in America they combine the von title with the last name and my last name is really so long that it actually didn't fit in most computers anymore. So my middle initial is now v. for von and the last name is of course as it always was. That's the peculiarity of the American way of looking at German names...."

It is a real interesting person, as to what I have read about him.
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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2020, 04:52:19 PM »

Why would Lady Charlotte be on this list?  Her money comes from her husband.  The dukes of Wellington have never been very rich.


According to the Sunday Times, these are the richest aristocrats in the UK. The Queen is only 17th!
I wonder if any continental aristocrats can match these figures.

1. The Duke of Westminster and the Grosvenor family - £9.964 billion
2. Earl Cadogan and family - £6.7 billion
3. Baroness Howard de Walden and family - £4.015 billion
4. Lady Charlotte Wellesley - £3.259 billion
5. Viscount Portman and family - £2.003 billion
6. Robert Miller and Princess Marie-Chantal and family - £2 billion
7. The Earl of Iveagh and the Guinness family - £922 million
8. Viscount Rothermere and family - £900 million
9. The Duke of Devonshire - £880 million
10. Prince Jonathan and Princess Gesine Doria Pamphilj - £775 million
11. Lord Rothschild - £755 million
12. Lord Vestey and family - £728 million
13. The Duke of Bedford - £727 million
14. The Duke of Sutherland - £585 million
15. Charlotte Townshend - £460 million
16. The Duke of Northumberland - £382 million
17. The Queen - £370 million
18. The Marquess of Salisbury - £343 million
19. Lord Iliffe and family - £297 million
20. Viscount Astor and family - £250 million
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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2020, 05:23:23 PM »

Isn't Albert of Monaco's fortune estimated to be 1B. And Tatiana Casiraghi is worth 2B. I  guess they don't qualify as "royals", only "serene". I'd be serene too if I had billions Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2020, 06:07:16 PM »

Why would Lady Charlotte be on this list?  Her money comes from her husband.  The dukes of Wellington have never been very rich.


According to the Sunday Times, these are the richest aristocrats in the UK. The Queen is only 17th!
I wonder if any continental aristocrats can match these figures.

1. The Duke of Westminster and the Grosvenor family - £9.964 billion
2. Earl Cadogan and family - £6.7 billion
3. Baroness Howard de Walden and family - £4.015 billion
4. Lady Charlotte Wellesley - £3.259 billion
5. Viscount Portman and family - £2.003 billion
6. Robert Miller and Princess Marie-Chantal and family - £2 billion
7. The Earl of Iveagh and the Guinness family - £922 million
8. Viscount Rothermere and family - £900 million
9. The Duke of Devonshire - £880 million
10. Prince Jonathan and Princess Gesine Doria Pamphilj - £775 million
11. Lord Rothschild - £755 million
12. Lord Vestey and family - £728 million
13. The Duke of Bedford - £727 million
14. The Duke of Sutherland - £585 million
15. Charlotte Townshend - £460 million
16. The Duke of Northumberland - £382 million
17. The Queen - £370 million
18. The Marquess of Salisbury - £343 million
19. Lord Iliffe and family - £297 million
20. Viscount Astor and family - £250 million

Indeed... and that was a marriage that seemed surprising for many reasons
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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2020, 10:02:02 PM »

Lady Charlotte married Tatiana's half-uncle (IIRC), so their money is from the same family. I seriously doubt that Tatiana herself has 2.5 billion.  Maybe interest from family trusts...
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« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2020, 11:01:58 PM »

Lady Charlotte married Tatiana's half-uncle (IIRC), so their money is from the same family. I seriously doubt that Tatiana herself has 2.5 billion.  Maybe interest from family trusts...

The Santo Domingos are immensly rich so I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. It was reported after the death of her father and gandfather that she did indeed inherit billions. But the press might have gotten it wrong.
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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2020, 05:00:34 PM »

Eric Wittouck holds the title of écuyer, the lowest-ranked title in the Belgian nobility. He is worth $8 billion, making him the richest Belgian:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/eric-wittouck/
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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2020, 01:20:44 PM »

The richest aristocrats in the UK according to the Sunday Times Rich List 2020:

1. The Duke of Westminster and the Grosvenor family, £10.295bn
2. Earl Cadogan and family, £6.817bn
3. Baroness Howard de Walden and family, £4.316bn
4. Princess Marie-Chantal and family, £2.14bn
5. Viscount Portman and family, £2.05bn
6. Lady Charlotte Wellesley, £2.031bn
7. The Earl of Iveagh and the Guinness family, £906m
8. The Duke of Devonshire, £895m
9. Prince Jonathan and Princess Gesine Doria Pamphilj, £775m
10. The Duke of Bedford, £750m
11. Viscount Rothermere and family, £920m
12. Lord Vestey and family, £721m
13. Lord Rothschild, £650m
14. The Duke of Sutherland, £585m
15. Charlotte Townshend, £454m
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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2020, 02:18:39 PM »

The richest aristocrats in the UK according to the Sunday Times Rich List 2020:

1. The Duke of Westminster and the Grosvenor family, £10.295bn
2. Earl Cadogan and family, £6.817bn
3. Baroness Howard de Walden and family, £4.316bn
4. Princess Marie-Chantal and family, £2.14bn
5. Viscount Portman and family, £2.05bn
6. Lady Charlotte Wellesley, £2.031bn
7. The Earl of Iveagh and the Guinness family, £906m
8. The Duke of Devonshire, £895m
9. Prince Jonathan and Princess Gesine Doria Pamphilj, £775m
10. The Duke of Bedford, £750m
11. Viscount Rothermere and family, £920m
12. Lord Vestey and family, £721m
13. Lord Rothschild, £650m
14. The Duke of Sutherland, £585m
15. Charlotte Townshend, £454m

Hmm so MC is not a Brit royal and  Charlottes value is due to Husband
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2020, 05:04:48 PM »

Eric Wittouck holds the title of écuyer, the lowest-ranked title in the Belgian nobility. He is worth $8 billion, making him the richest Belgian:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/eric-wittouck/

Is that the French language ecquivalent of the Dutch Jonkheer?

Just checked it online, it apparently is.
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