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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2007, 04:37:25 AM »

What I meant was that since the birth of the Prince, they've shelved the idea of female succession at least for this generation. Without Prince Hisahito, the chances are that Aiko would have followed her father or that the succession would have passed to an adopted son from one of the cadet branches or whatever. As it is, if Prince and Princess Akishino outlive Prince Naruhito, they'll become Emperor and Empress because Aiko will be passed over in the line of succession. The birth of their son has ensured that if they live long enough, it'll happen whereas without him it wouldn't have.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2007, 02:33:04 PM »

What I meant was that since the birth of the Prince, they've shelved the idea of female succession at least for this generation. Without Prince Hisahito, the chances are that Aiko would have followed her father or that the succession would have passed to an adopted son from one of the cadet branches or whatever. As it is, if Prince and Princess Akishino outlive Prince Naruhito, they'll become Emperor and Empress because Aiko will be passed over in the line of succession. The birth of their son has ensured that if they live long enough, it'll happen whereas without him it wouldn't have.

my point was that, if prince naruhito suceeds his father, princess masako would of course become empress. after prince naruhito, it would be prince hisahito, but still princess masako would have been empress before prince hisahito's time.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2007, 05:58:02 PM »

Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko depart for Sweden.

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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2007, 06:44:47 PM »

What I meant was that since the birth of the Prince, they've shelved the idea of female succession at least for this generation. Without Prince Hisahito, the chances are that Aiko would have followed her father or that the succession would have passed to an adopted son from one of the cadet branches or whatever. As it is, if Prince and Princess Akishino outlive Prince Naruhito, they'll become Emperor and Empress because Aiko will be passed over in the line of succession. The birth of their son has ensured that if they live long enough, it'll happen whereas without him it wouldn't have.

my point was that, if prince naruhito suceeds his father, princess masako would of course become empress. after prince naruhito, it would be prince hisahito, but still princess masako would have been empress before prince hisahito's time.

Oh, sure, Princess Masako will be empress if she and her husband outlive the current emperor. But Prince Hisahito's birth means that if Prince and Princess Akishino outlive Naruhito, they get to be emperor and empress. Hisahito won't succeed Naruhito if his father is still alive.
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2007, 07:13:16 PM »

What I meant was that since the birth of the Prince, they've shelved the idea of female succession at least for this generation. Without Prince Hisahito, the chances are that Aiko would have followed her father or that the succession would have passed to an adopted son from one of the cadet branches or whatever. As it is, if Prince and Princess Akishino outlive Prince Naruhito, they'll become Emperor and Empress because Aiko will be passed over in the line of succession. The birth of their son has ensured that if they live long enough, it'll happen whereas without him it wouldn't have.

my point was that, if prince naruhito suceeds his father, princess masako would of course become empress. after prince naruhito, it would be prince hisahito, but still princess masako would have been empress before prince hisahito's time.

Oh, sure, Princess Masako will be empress if she and her husband outlive the current emperor. But Prince Hisahito's birth means that if Prince and Princess Akishino outlive Naruhito, they get to be emperor and empress. Hisahito won't succeed Naruhito if his father is still alive.

but with or without prince hisahito, prince akishino and princess kiko would still be emperor and empress if prince akishino outlives prince naruhito because prince akishino is second in line for the imperial throne.

and i don't want to think of a scenario where someone dies. just for now, prince naruhito would succeed the current emperor, then if something happens to him, or he renounces his right to succeed, it will be prince akishino who will succeed him, not because of the birth of prince hisahito, but because prince akishino is next in line after prince naruhito.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2007, 08:09:46 PM »

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but with or without prince hisahito, prince akishino and princess kiko would still be emperor and empress if prince akishino outlives prince naruhito because prince akishino is second in line for the imperial throne.

That's true now, but until the birth of the prince, there was talk about reforming the succession laws so that Aiko could succeed her father. If that had happened, it'd have cut the Akishino family out of the succession (assuming Aiko had children). Without this new prince and without a change in the succession laws, Prince Akishino would have succeeded and there wouldn't have been anyone to follow him.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2007, 08:29:55 PM »

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but with or without prince hisahito, prince akishino and princess kiko would still be emperor and empress if prince akishino outlives prince naruhito because prince akishino is second in line for the imperial throne.

That's true now, but until the birth of the prince, there was talk about reforming the succession laws so that Aiko could succeed her father. If that had happened, it'd have cut the Akishino family out of the succession (assuming Aiko had children). Without this new prince and without a change in the succession laws, Prince Akishino would have succeeded and there wouldn't have been anyone to follow him.

whether they change the succession law for princess aiko to succeed or not, the akishino family would still be in line for succession, maybe not very near the throne but they will be there.

anyway, it is not happening right now, because of prince hisahito. i am only stating the fact that princess masako could still be empress if prince naruhito will succeed his father.

if the prince hisahito was not born, then maybe japan would change the succession law to have princess aiko succeed or maybe there is a boy that is born in the farther branch of the imperial family that they can let succeed  prince akishino.

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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2007, 02:31:22 PM »

the Emperor and Empress in Sweden. the Empress is very regal in a quiet and charming way. she wears the kimono beautifully.

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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2007, 02:42:08 PM »

I agree, Wear, but this visit is surely, to say the least, superfluous.

I mean, the Swedes were just in Japan...how much more goodwill needs to be spread around?   Crazy
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2007, 04:57:58 PM »

I agree, Wear, but this visit is surely, to say the least, superfluous.

I mean, the Swedes were just in Japan...how much more goodwill needs to be spread around?   Crazy

 Grin by the way Macaw, this trip was because of Carl Linnaeus' (The Father of Taxonomy) anniversary see this,http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/linnaeus.html. the emperor, who is an amateur specialist in ichthyology, is a very ardent admirer of Linnaeus. the emperor himself wrote some papers about the goby fish. anyway, most members of the JRF are into this subject, most japanese in fact, love this area of science.
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2007, 04:41:34 PM »

Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko in Estonia and Latvia


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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2007, 04:43:40 PM »

OK, if they are also visiting the Baltic states, the trip is not just a quick return visit.   Smiley

Linnaeus is certainly worth knowing about and celebrating, too.
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2007, 05:08:27 PM »

OK, if they are also visiting the Baltic states, the trip is not just a quick return visit.   Smiley

Linnaeus is certainly worth knowing about and celebrating, too.

yes, and on sunday, they are going to the UK to see Queen Elizabeth II, then more Linnaeus celebration,  Grin.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2007, 04:44:32 PM »

The Emperor and Empress' arrival at Tokyo Int'l Airport. they were greeted by the members of the JRF.

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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2007, 05:19:05 PM »

The Emperor is a very good representative of the Japanese people; he's managing to mitigate the effects of the more stridently nationalistic and right-wing politicians that seem to be running Japan these days.
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