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But why would a 19 year old be thinking about forever with anyone, especially a 19 year old who has years of education and training for the throne ahead of her?
Living with someone before settling down into marriage isn't an issue, but Ingrid is too young to be thinking about marriage to anyone at this point, and has a lot of schooling to get through before she's ready to even begin thinking about it.
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I’m surprised people think there’s an age too young to live with someone. How are you supposed to decide this person is the one if you don’t live with them first?
I think there’s a point in development when people should focus on who they are and how to become the best version of themselves that should ideally happen before focusing on whether someone else is The One. That’s stage two. How can you know if someone is right for you if you don’t know who you truly are and what you want from life? Go through stage one, before embarking on stage two. I honestly think it’s better to date lots of people less intensely in your late teens, gain some experience of what life and love is like before life gets serious and decisions have major lifelong consequences. I feel sad for both IA and SM that they seem to be pushed into twenty something living situations as teenagers. I wish Haakon and MM were able as parents to let them try things out a little with freedom balanced by a few guiderails in place to keep things from getting too serious too soon. They have all the rest of their lives to be grownups and only a couple of years to be 18/19 |
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Hester
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I’m surprised people think there’s an age too young to live with someone. How are you supposed to decide this person is the one if you don’t live with them first?
I’m interested in what people’s thoughts are based on their own experience. I lived with my second boyfriend later (briefly) husband from age 21. With hindsight I’d nominate 24 as a better age (for me) - but I might have been a late developer! |
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Ghost
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I don’t think there’s a golden rule or age for that. It so much depends on how mature they are and their ideas about life…
What I do think is that, before even considering living together, people would benefit from taking it slowly. Having dates, doing things together, spending time together, by themselves and in a group of friends, and with their families, spending time alone, all this gives one the chance to have a more precise idea about who they are, who the other person is, how much they enjoy and crave each other’s company and how much there’s a chance of things to progress to that profound mystery which is love beyond crush.
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Maria
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I’m surprised people think there’s an age too young to live with someone. How are you supposed to decide this person is the one if you don’t live with them first?
As the mother of a 19 yo I say it’s too young because it’s an age where there are SO many things to find out about yourself in a way that lays a foundation for your future and that’s so important that it should be your main focus. Have a gf/bf - fine. Live with - at least for 19 yo in Denmark that’s very early to have obligations that can stear you away from finding out who you are and what you want. I have quite a few friends with children at 19 and from what I hear they all share this - they are learning who they are. The girls especially who are in relationship sound like they are getting sidetracked. That makes me sad because 19 is the time for the introspection and focus. Not what another person wants. IA obviously doesn’t quite need to consider so much about her future but still. |
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lula
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We are not talking about a normal young woman, for a 19-year-old crown princess to go and live with her boyfriend is not very normal.
Haakon and Mette Marit have wanted to act like "modern" and understanding parents by welcoming all the partners of their teenage children and inviting them to very public official and family events with the presence of the media. They have not at any time considered that at that age relationships tend to last a short time, and that exposing these young people to the press can be harmful to them in the long run because you make them a target for the press in the future.
In other royal houses with young princes and princesses we are not seeing this way of acting. They will receive their children's friends and partners at home or at private celebrations, but they protect them from public exposure.
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I would give IA the benefit of doubt (for now).
But ... so far she has had an ordinary education. They decided not go to to a private school which is good in one way, in other ways she might be lacking some contacts and skills she would have gotten otherwise. I think she attended an international school for a while to be fluent in English, but frankly, I have been to Norway numerous times and this does not seem extraordinary at all. I never encountered anyone who was not fluent in English. Because everything was vey normal she has to make sure that she gets some experience and education now that qualifies her for her future job.
IMO Spain does an outstanding job preparing Leonor, but then she is next in line while IA is not (yet) crown princess. But: Given the peculiar situation of the King being old and frail and MM not well enough or not willing enough to work, IA might soon have to step up to assist her father and it would be good if an emphasis was put on her training, even though she deserves a few careless years as well.
I don't know if that is a German thing, but in Germany, if you heard that a 19 year old moved in with the boyfriend you would assume they are uneducated, low class people. Determined young women that age ususally put a lot of emphasis on their own education, if they move out, they move to attend college or university and might live in shared accommodation to keep the cost down. They might be dating, but they will make sure they are not missing out at student life. It might be only a German thing, though.
About living with her boyfriend. Didn't they expose Sverre Magnus' girlfriend recently as well? I think it is silly, as all of you say: This is ridiculous as it might seem very flingy, because these relationships at this age are not steady. Plus: It might given them unwanted attention and the public might think it is steadier than it is. What happend to "no ring, no bring?". Plus: There is also always a cry-out about the privacy of these young people, this is, IMO, an intrusion in their privacy. Let them date for a couple of years and then bring them into the public.
It is noticable that both kids, IA and Sverre, do not live at home anymore. It was highest time for MM to switch from "I am a homemaker" to the "I am too sick to work" excuse. As Asket is so close to Oslo, there was surely no rush for them to move out. So the home can't be that cosy. Maybe IA was looking for some stability she did not experience at home.
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Eliza B
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Only 1-2 generations ago, marriage was a thing at 19. "Ring by spring" was echoed across college campuses. Now its the minority. Live-in relationships are far more common, especially in Norway where the average age for marriage is now in the late 30s, and children before marriage is the majority now.
Yes 19 it's young, most wealthy kids are in college and living on campus or parent rented apartments so they don't have to think about this. I had a couple friends live-in at this age but it was more about affordable living situation during college than we're going to last forever.
But better to live together and fall out then have a divorce on the record before 20.
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Larzen
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But whilst she supposedly lived with her boyfriend he was studying at Lancaster university in the UK, and did internship in Norway over the summer, that he has visited her and stayed with her now and then is not really like living together I would say.
It is only se og hør that says they lived together and not everything comming from them is the truth, they have not shown any photos to document it, I think they only had photos of them together three times, driving out of Skaugum after a birthday, at a theatre play and and Mauds exhibition, if they lived together it would have been litle trouble to papp them together outside as they knew where she lived this five months she worked in Oslo. They also said she cancelled her appartment when she moved to the military camp over christmas where she has been living since.
Ingrid went some years to Oslo international school where all the classes except Norwegian is in english, a very good academically school that prepares students for international studies also, she was accepted to Elvebakken in the basis of her grades the principal said, at the time one of the two best and most difficult schools to get in to in Oslo.
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« Last Edit: November 09, 2024, 03:56:46 PM by Larzen »
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But whilst she supposedly lived with her boyfriend he was studying at Lancaster university in the UK, and did internship in Norway over the summer, that he has visited her and stayed with her now and then is not really like living together I would say.
It is only se og hør that says they lived together and not everything comming from them is the truth, they have not shown any photos to document it, I think they only had photos of them together three times, driving out of Skaugum after a birthday, at a theatre play and and Mauds exhibition, if they lived together it would have been litle trouble to papp them together outside as they knew where she lived this five months she worked in Oslo. They also said she cancelled her appartment when she moved to the military camp over christmas where she has been living since.
Ingrid went some years to Oslo international school where all the classes except Norwegian is in english, she was accepted to Elvebakken in the basis of her grades the principal said, at the time one of the two best and most difficult schools to get in to in Oslo.
Well that makes a whole lot more sense. Thanks! |
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It doesn't matter how old you get, buying snacks for a road trip should always look like an unsupervised 9-year-old was given $100. Anonymous
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bumbershoot
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"Living together" may not mean the same thing in terms of commitment to kids of Ingrid Alexandra's generation that it would have meant to mine, or even to my now middle-aged kids. I think it's much more casual and is not seen as a sign of a serious relationship leading to marriage.
That said, two weeks after I got my undergraduate degree at the age of 21, I married the guy with whom I had my first date on my 18th birthday. And oh boy, were we ever too young. I wish we'd casually lived together first, but that was not an OK think back then. He had never lived on his own, not even spent one night away from his mother's home. And I moved into our first home quite literally from my college dorm.
The marriage lasted 16 very difficult years. And oh, I wish I knew then what I know now about marriage and relationships. One hopes Ingrid Alexandra will be far wiser when she weds.
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Gemsheal
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Franco is quite good looking  But if true, hopefully just a passing thing. IA needs a "Daniel" in her life ... successful, but not a celebrity. |
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"What would life be without art? Science prolongs life. To consist of what - eating, drinking, and sleeping? What is the good of living longer if it is only a matter of satisfying the requirements that sustain life? All this is nothing without the charm of art."
~ Sarah Bernhardt
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kate_180
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Ingrid Alexandra is the copy of her mother personalty wise. I also believe all the rumors about her partying !
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How do you know that? Do you have proof of your allegations?
I would call that "character assasination" , could not find a better translation for this.
So every young royal woman who is partying has automatically a bad character, I am speechless.
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