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« Reply #2355 on: October 31, 2021, 02:41:47 PM »

victoria de marichlar attended the ELLE style awards 2021 in seville


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« Reply #2356 on: December 03, 2021, 04:56:37 PM »

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Victoria Federica attended the Moët & Chandon event organized today at the Teatro Real in Madrid
Her companion's name is Jorge Bárcena.


















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« Reply #2357 on: January 05, 2022, 03:31:06 PM »

Today's papers are running articles that JC wants to return to Spain https://www.dailymail.co....family-expert-claims.html
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« Reply #2358 on: January 05, 2022, 03:46:10 PM »

Today's papers are running articles that JC wants to return to Spain https://www.dailymail.co....family-expert-claims.html

Daily Fail clickbait. Besides, it would be incredibly damaging for Felipe and he's too smart for that.
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« Reply #2359 on: January 05, 2022, 09:53:00 PM »

Today's papers are running articles that JC wants to return to Spain https://www.dailymail.co....family-expert-claims.html

Daily Fail clickbait. Besides, it would be incredibly damaging for Felipe and he's too smart for that.

In the last 2 weeks:


Express https://www.express.co.uk...-leave-spain-abdicate-evg

New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2...ain-king-juan-carlos.html


The Guardian https://www.theguardian.c...-wants-to-return-to-spain


inews https://inews.co.uk/news/...live-royal-palace-1339594


Royal central https://royalcentral.co.u...way-back-to-spain-169805/


London Times https://www.thetimes.co.u...200-000-stipend-tqvccmz8f


cde https://cde.news/speculat...-to-return-to-spain-soon/

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« Reply #2360 on: January 05, 2022, 10:37:09 PM »


Some of those are legitimate news outlets, not just gossip rags ...   Maybe these reports are just feelers, to test the waters with the public?

I would think that - if Spanish prosecutors clear him of wrongdoing - JC would have the "right" to come back to Spain, but it would be tin-eared for him to do so, given that "most" of the public probably believes he's guilty.   He would still do harm to Felipe under those circumstances.   
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« Reply #2361 on: January 06, 2022, 12:14:02 AM »

My feeling is that where there is smoke there is fire. It's cropped up quite a bit in the last few weeks. Unless JC is imminently dying of something diagnosed, I can't imagine that his family wants or will have him back....including his wife.
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« Reply #2362 on: January 06, 2022, 12:44:12 PM »

My feeling is that where there is smoke there is fire. It's cropped up quite a bit in the last few weeks. Unless JC is imminently dying of something diagnosed, I can't imagine that his family wants or will have him back....including his wife.

It's a serious issue.  JC has been wanting to came to Spain for months now that his court cases have been dismissed, it's creating a problem for the government and specially Felipe.

I have no doubt, like many others in Spain, JC has been putting feelers in the press to see the reaction about his return.  Not long ago some friends were apparently saying "he wants to come back to Spain, to Zarzuela and with the same financial assignation he had before he left - over 150, 000 euros annually."

The problem is that there is no way he's going to return to Zarzuela - a palace intrinsically linked to the Head of State or will have the same financial assignation he had before 2020 when Felipe retired that assignation.

Moncloa, the govenment, says it's a matter for the Royal House.  Felipe doesn't say anything but father or not, doesn't want JC in Zarzuela and with a public salary when the public opinion is so against him.

There are no many options open to JC if he wants to return.  If Patrimonio Nacional (Royal National Heritage) gives him a place to live on tax payers money, it'll be a scandal.  If he buys something as a private person, he will have the worst of the reality shows "journalists" continiously asking scandalous questions day in and day out.

By law, if there are no longer court cases against him, he can return.  But this is no longer about law and its loopholes, he's been convicted by public opinion and Felipe has to be very careful because the government is leaving the decision about his father up to him. 

The best thing JC can do is to stay away from Spain.  Maybe try to live in a country like Portugal where many of his young roots are and make private trips to Spain.  I just don't see him living permanently in the country.  It'll be a poison chalice for Felipe.

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« Reply #2363 on: January 07, 2022, 02:09:18 PM »

Is there a poll how the Spanish people feel about him?
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« Reply #2364 on: January 07, 2022, 02:52:59 PM »

Yes. Rumours ,news, polls, opinion makers, the whole lot, every single day.
Despite his old age, I find it cynical that he wants to stay near his family in his country.There are two stages in his reign: the first two decades, maybe, when he showed his happy family life and achievements ( well-deserved-  and a private life kept very private and "secret" in Spain, but not abroad) and the time when he just didn't care about appearances any more. How could JC , Cristina and husband take part in an event and stand so close to and even kiss his lover? Does he miss Spain now that he can no longer get out of the place straightaway to enjoy his very private life?
He could have passed to history as a great king. The best service he can offer now is  what his father did to legitimate his son's reign: renounce/ pass on his rights " por España, todo por España."
Despite all this, I think he should be allowed to return. After all, he left the family's exile in Portugal as a child, as a pawn.His childhood in Spain must have been hard.This is the typical  "Good /Bad  if he does,Good/ Bad if he doesn't" controversy.

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« Reply #2365 on: January 07, 2022, 11:13:17 PM »

The Revenge of the Elephant comes to mind
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« Reply #2366 on: January 07, 2022, 11:42:15 PM »

The Revenge of the Elephant comes to mind

Yes indeed Spiteful

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« Reply #2367 on: January 07, 2022, 11:44:52 PM »

hahahah.
love it KC Star
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« Reply #2368 on: January 08, 2022, 02:05:33 AM »

Love it cordtx 

One of the short videos I always laugh when I see it is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naA8hHhdcd8

Translates as "f***ck*, the king"
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« Reply #2369 on: January 08, 2022, 10:24:03 AM »

Love it cordtx 

One of the short videos I always laugh when I see it is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naA8hHhdcd8

Translates as "f***ck*, the king"
may his head never completely have ease
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