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Luc PS du Vin
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« Reply #75 on: January 28, 2011, 06:24:44 PM »

So she was arrested, I bet. Wonder where that booking photo is! Driving under the influence is automatic arrest-able offense unless she used her diplomatic passport, right?  Thinking

Edit: YES, she was arrested "The 27-year-old princess was arrested Sept. 17 by the California Highway Patrol for driving through Monterey County at excessive speed. An original charge that she was driving under the influence of alcohol was dropped."

http://www.montereyherald...215072?source=most_viewed

Now to find the photo.


Wow, this is a Dish fit for a king! I was wondering what Theodora was up to aside from "pursuing her acting career". I don't know about her acting skills, but she's a bit dumpy and frumpy to make a Hollywood starlet. Maybe she'd better go back to London and do Shakespeare. She'd be good as one of the daughters in King Lear.
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« Reply #76 on: January 28, 2011, 10:40:49 PM »

 Yikes Yikes Yikes
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« Reply #77 on: January 28, 2011, 10:42:28 PM »

This dumb chick should've stayed in the UK! 
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« Reply #78 on: January 28, 2011, 10:43:28 PM »

I thought about this a bit. Perhaps the reason they thought her haughty was that she thought money could buy the problem away.

The scenario I see (don't know if it's true). If she was arrested, she's arraigned that day or the next morning. She shows up with checkbook in hand thinking it's no big deal. In the UK, you just get points on your license right? She's a Princess (in her mind) with a diplomatic passport. She can't possibly be in any trouble.

The District Attorney quickly informs her otherwise. Her title matters for didly squat and her money for less (as Paris Hilton found out for the same offense). She probably didn't understand the gravity of the situation she was in. Then Daddy got an attorney who got her out of it.

Now, let's see. I'm arrested and blow a .07 - she could have refused and had a blood test too - (illegal in many states now). Still it means she was not much from legally drunk. She was driving on a FREEWAY at over 100 mph. I guarantee if she'd been you or me, we'd be in jail or on trial right now for DUI and reckless endangerment. Instead, she gets off.
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« Reply #79 on: January 28, 2011, 10:45:18 PM »

Why does she have a diplomatic passport?
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« Reply #80 on: January 28, 2011, 10:47:25 PM »

So she was arrested, I bet. Wonder where that booking photo is! Driving under the influence is automatic arrest-able offense unless she used her diplomatic passport, right?  Thinking

Edit: YES, she was arrested "The 27-year-old princess was arrested Sept. 17 by the California Highway Patrol for driving through Monterey County at excessive speed. An original charge that she was driving under the influence of alcohol was dropped."

http://www.montereyherald...215072?source=most_viewed

Now to find the photo.


Wow, this is a Dish fit for a king! I was wondering what Theodora was up to aside from "pursuing her acting career". I don't know about her acting skills, but she's a bit dumpy and frumpy to make a Hollywood starlet. Maybe she'd better go back to London and do Shakespeare. She'd be good as one of the daughters in King Lear.

She was in a movie with her Aunt Daisy in Denmark. She was supposedly the star voice or something. But here in the States, she won't be a star. She's just not that pretty and her acting just isn't oscar worthy. Her IMDB log says she's had some work, though. No doubt the same as the others. Gotten through connections.

Here's the IMDB link kept up by her agent, with official photos: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3587026/

Obviously her arrest has gotten her some attention, her profile popularity has gone up about 26% this week.  Roll Eyes She's on the right track if she wants to be Lindsay Lohan.  
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« Reply #81 on: January 28, 2011, 10:50:26 PM »

Why does she have a diplomatic passport?

The whole family's Greek passports were revoked by the Greek government when they (ie Tino) refused to take a last name. Denmark then gave them passports in fury (agreeing they had no last name).  Theodora, her siblings, Marie Chantal and now "Princess" Tatiana, all have this Danish Diplomatic passport (according to Trine) thanks to Aunt Daisy.

The Greek royal family claim they have no last name. Funnily, their Danish passports say their last name is "De Grecia." That would be fine with Greece but Constantine refuses to use it. His loss. It's the reason so many Greeks refer to him as "The Glucksburg," - Denmark is supposedly the House of Glucksburg according to some Greek historians. Theodora I guess agrees because she said her last name was "Theodora." Her first name "HRH" and her middle name "Princess."  Roll Eyes

It's quite a shame that Denmark gives out these passports to people who aren't Danish, don't live there, don't speak the language and don't perform any diplomatic functions. Their only tie is that their Aunt is the Queen. Their Mom gave up her citizenship when she left for Greece. But I'm not Danish so I shouldn't complain. I do wonder how the Danes feel about this arrangement, anyone?

I doubt the younger generation could obtain Greek passports even if they took a last name. They have not served in the Greek armed forces for the required time period.
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« Reply #82 on: January 28, 2011, 10:58:18 PM »

Thank you mrplowfan   Smiley

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Theodora I guess agrees because she said her last name was "Theodora." Her first name "HRH" and her middle name "Princess."  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #83 on: January 28, 2011, 11:18:51 PM »

Her name appeared in the court filings as HRH Princess Theodora because that's how her name appears on her California driver's license. When she applied for it, the California DMV would have required her to show documents such as a birth certificate and a passport to confirm her identity, and apparently these pieces of paper are consistent in giving her name as "HRH Princess Theodora". So it looks like her first name is HRH, middle is Princess (yeah, that's right!) and last is Theodora. I wonder if the lowly employees of the CA-DMV realized that "HRH" and "Princess" are actually (defunct) royal titles. Maybe not: I had a friend in 4th grade whose first name was WL. Anyway, I'll bet she acted haughty then, too. That attitude doesn't go over as well here as it probably does in the UK. She'd better take her attitude and her checkbook and go back to where the lowly masses recognize their betters.
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« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2011, 12:11:56 AM »

Why does she have a diplomatic passport?

The whole family's Greek passports were revoked by the Greek government when they (ie Tino) refused to take a last name. Denmark then gave them passports in fury (agreeing they had no last name).  Theodora, her siblings, Marie Chantal and now "Princess" Tatiana, all have this Danish Diplomatic passport (according to Trine) thanks to Aunt Daisy.

The Greek royal family claim they have no last name. Funnily, their Danish passports say their last name is "De Grecia." That would be fine with Greece but Constantine refuses to use it. His loss. It's the reason so many Greeks refer to him as "The Glucksburg," - Denmark is supposedly the House of Glucksburg according to some Greek historians. Theodora I guess agrees because she said her last name was "Theodora." Her first name "HRH" and her middle name "Princess."  Roll Eyes

It's quite a shame that Denmark gives out these passports to people who aren't Danish, don't live there, don't speak the language and don't perform any diplomatic functions. Their only tie is that their Aunt is the Queen. Their Mom gave up her citizenship when she left for Greece. But I'm not Danish so I shouldn't complain. I do wonder how the Danes feel about this arrangement, anyone?

I doubt the younger generation could obtain Greek passports even if they took a last name. They have not served in the Greek armed forces for the required time period.

Mr Plowfan, that's a funny point that the Greeks live in the UK, have Danish passports, and then choose (when forced, apparently) a Spanish last name "de Grecia."  I would think they would put the Danish version of "of Greece" on the passport since it's issued by Denmark?

The Greek royal family was actually established by Danish princes, right?  I thought that would be the reason they would be issued diplomatic passports by Denmark.  The fact that Anne Marie is also the Queen of Denmark's sister, just reinforces that link.  Or am I misunderstanding you?
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« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2011, 12:15:10 AM »

Probably they choose the spanish version to have the same one as their sister as it was "invented" when she needed a surname for her spanish nationality  Thinking
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« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2011, 01:03:54 AM »

Are Theodora and Philippos not eligible for British passports and British citizenship, since they were born in London?  I was actually under the impression that the two younger children held British passports, while everybody else's was Danish, but I could be wrong.  I'm not at all sure where I read/heard that - I may have just come up with it myself. Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2011, 01:16:59 AM »

Her name appeared in the court filings as HRH Princess Theodora because that's how her name appears on her California driver's license. When she applied for it, the California DMV would have required her to show documents such as a birth certificate and a passport to confirm her identity, and apparently these pieces of paper are consistent in giving her name as "HRH Princess Theodora". So it looks like her first name is HRH, middle is Princess (yeah, that's right!) and last is Theodora. I wonder if the lowly employees of the CA-DMV realized that "HRH" and "Princess" are actually (defunct) royal titles. Maybe not: I had a friend in 4th grade whose first name was WL. Anyway, I'll bet she acted haughty then, too. That attitude doesn't go over as well here as it probably does in the UK. She'd better take her attitude and her checkbook and go back to where the lowly masses recognize their betters.

Greece, anyone ? Spiteful
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« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2011, 01:23:32 AM »

Actually, The Greek RF are not Danish prince/ss.  There are lots of discussions about the technicalities of this online. They are only  styled that way by courtesy since the first King of Greece was a Danish Prince. None of Greek family are in line for the Danish throne.

Queen Anne-Marie in particular renounced her Danish citizenship and renounced her rights to the throne for herself and her heirs when she married the Greek monarch. I've read that it was a condition of the acceptance of her engagement. Maybe some Danish member of the board can find the exact wording but I'm not sure why that was required. I heard at the time it was a Danish requirement because of some protests on the left.

My understanding about the citizenship of Theodora and Phillipos is that while they technically could claim British citizenship (if they meet some of the other requirements), they do not claim it. Instead they lay claim that they are "Greek," denied their passports by an evil government who wants them to take a surname. Something they say they "can't" do. Bull. That's why they take Danish passports.  

There is a documentary of King Constantine (I think it's called a King's Story). It was on youtube until one single part of the documentary, "Part 4," was repeatedly removed by someone claiming copyright. In that part, there is a clip of King Constantine's office (Nik and a secretary are working there) and King Constantine is signing a letter. You could stop at that point and read the letter. King Constantine is telling some government that they will be in the country and that they will all be on Danish Diplomatic passports (except Carlos who would be on a Spanish passport). I honestly think that being able to view the letter was why it keeps getting pulled. They don't want people to see it.

I think the reason they chose "de Grecia" was to avoid a diplomatic incident. If Denmark had issued passports in the name of Greece "Prince of Greece" Greece would have had a fit. Since "de Grecia" was already used in Spain for Queen Sophia without incident, it was a plausible solution. However, even though it is in the passport line "Last name" King Constantine still claims it is not his last name. If he would take it, the Greeks would have no problem issuing a passport, according to the courts.
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« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2011, 01:27:16 AM »

Her name appeared in the court filings as HRH Princess Theodora because that's how her name appears on her California driver's license. When she applied for it, the California DMV would have required her to show documents such as a birth certificate and a passport to confirm her identity, and apparently these pieces of paper are consistent in giving her name as "HRH Princess Theodora". So it looks like her first name is HRH, middle is Princess (yeah, that's right!) and last is Theodora. I wonder if the lowly employees of the CA-DMV realized that "HRH" and "Princess" are actually (defunct) royal titles. Maybe not: I had a friend in 4th grade whose first name was WL. Anyway, I'll bet she acted haughty then, too. That attitude doesn't go over as well here as it probably does in the UK. She'd better take her attitude and her checkbook and go back to where the lowly masses recognize their betters.

Greece, anyone ? Spiteful

Last I heard, the Greek government took great joy in making their life hell. He can't take get the hell out (1974) for an answer. Of late, they are trying to get a tax settlement off of him and they are trying to make him pay a fine for the huge structure they put up and left for the wedding.  Maybe they should go to Denmark, they seem to like their passports. They should earn them.
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