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« on: October 17, 2014, 01:09:30 PM »

By coincidence I stumbled upon the following story about the death of Prince Leopold Clement of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. He was murdered by a (former) lover, who commited suicide. Sad enough the killer was dead immediately, while Leopold had to suffer for about six months before dying. It made me wonder about royal murders and suicides:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._of_Saxe-Coburg_and_Gotha
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 01:10:47 PM »

One of the most familiar stories is ofcourse that of crownprince Rudolf of Austria and his mistress Mary Vetsera

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayerling_Incident
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 01:12:08 PM »

In current times in Nepal, the Nepalese royal massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...i/Nepalese_royal_massacre
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 02:09:37 PM »

One of the most familiar stories is ofcourse that of crownprince Rudolf of Austria and his mistress Mary Vetsera

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayerling_Incident

I've always been fascinated by this mysterious story! Star
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 03:22:49 PM »

One of the most familiar stories is ofcourse that of crownprince Rudolf of Austria and his mistress Mary Vetsera

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayerling_Incident

I've always been fascinated by this mysterious story! Star

It is a fascinating and mysterious story. Was it suicide, murder or else?
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 03:31:49 PM »

One of the most familiar stories is ofcourse that of crownprince Rudolf of Austria and his mistress Mary Vetsera

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayerling_Incident

I've always been fascinated by this mysterious story! Star

It is a fascinating and mysterious story. Was it suicide, murder or else?

Who knows! The official is that the both committed suicide  for love but some rumours say he killed her without her consent, other that it was a sham and that they were bothe killed...We'll never know I guess, but I like it  this way Wink
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2014, 04:01:44 PM »

Great thread, Principessa  Star

There is the story about Ludwig II of Bavaria. Ludwig was very eccentric, but generally well-regarded and even revered by many Bavarians - then and today.

In his eccentricity he spent most or all of the royal revenues, not state funds, on art projects, castle renovations, furnishings, and he extensively borrowed money from the kingdom. All attempts by his ministers to restrain him were in vain. This was used against him to declare him insane, an accusation which has since been refuted. He was kept in seclusion in the castle Berg, away from politics and ruling.

As the story goes Ludwig went on a walk around a lake with his attendant one evening, and never came back to the castle. Both, he and his attendant, were found dead. Ludwig attendant's body showed blows to the head and neck and signs of strangulation. Ludwig had no signs of struggle.

His death was officially ruled a suicide by drowning, although the official autopsy report stated that no water was found in his lungs. And it was well known that Ludwig was a very strong swimmer in his youth. The water in which he was found was approximately waist-deep and he had never expressed suicidal feelings during the crisis.

.....the rumor is, that he was killed by one of his opponents.....in a plot to replace him as a ruler.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2014, 04:03:52 PM »

I've visited the Neushwanstein castle in Bavaria btw... Drool
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2014, 04:50:27 PM »

Great thread, Principessa  Star

There is the story about Ludwig II of Bavaria. Ludwig was very eccentric, but generally well-regarded and even revered by many Bavarians - then and today.

In his eccentricity he spent most or all of the royal revenues, not state funds, on art projects, castle renovations, furnishings, and he extensively borrowed money from the kingdom. All attempts by his ministers to restrain him were in vain. This was used against him to declare him insane, an accusation which has since been refuted. He was kept in seclusion in the castle Berg, away from politics and ruling.

As the story goes Ludwig went on a walk around a lake with his attendant one evening, and never came back to the castle. Both, he and his attendant, were found dead. Ludwig attendant's body showed blows to the head and neck and signs of strangulation. Ludwig had no signs of struggle.

His death was officially ruled a suicide by drowning, although the official autopsy report stated that no water was found in his lungs. And it was well known that Ludwig was a very strong swimmer in his youth. The water in which he was found was approximately waist-deep and he had never expressed suicidal feelings during the crisis.

.....the rumor is, that he was killed by one of his opponents.....in a plot to replace him as a ruler.


Thanks Smiley

Indeed Ludwig death was never cleared. It is still a mystery what really happened.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2014, 05:21:22 PM »

Or the the mysterious disappearance of John Orth (formally known as Archduke Johann Salvator of Austria (Tuscany Lins))

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ohann_Salvator_of_Austria
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2014, 05:27:48 PM »

In February 1567, the residence of Mary Stuart was destroyed by an explosion, and her husband Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley was found murdered in the garden.  Thinking
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2024, 12:34:26 AM »

Tsar Feodor II Borisovich died poisoned in prison in 1605.   
http://www.lookandlearn.c.../history-images/YR0144464
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2024, 01:54:42 AM »

To take this discussion back to Rudolph:  ``Mayerling,'' by Sir Kenneth MacMillan is a fabulous ballet that treats the subject. The final pas de deux is gorgeous. here's a clip to a performance by Royal Ballet stalwarts Sara Lamb and Stephen McRae. How i'd love to see this ballet some day in the Royal's home theater!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ6wSf6MjRM
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