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« on: July 30, 2007, 06:27:46 PM »

i hope our German speakers here would kindly translate this for us.


http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmedi...,5570245-6-wm_dsl,00.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2007, 09:53:47 PM »

Since it is 45min video a complete translation is a bit too much. But if you like I can do a translation of parts like the little interviews. However I believe Carina did a good job on this already.
Basically what the movie is about is how WA and Maxima met, the obsticles that needed to be overcome til the wedding and what the Netherlands are thought to have thought ( Roll Eyes)about this relationship. Plus some interviews with a "royal expert" , a republican, the pastor who wed them and a friend of Prince Claus. Plus some footage of the engagement, the wedding and the engagement interview.

Btw what I found quite interesting was that apparently Maxima caught WA attention at a party because she made photos of him, without his agreement. So her remark, that she didn't know who he was or what he was is a bit silly isn't it? As well as her "when he came to New York to see me, I was a bit nerveous, because I had forgotten how he looked" Darling all you needed to do was look at the pix you made yourself....
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2007, 10:37:07 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 05:05:15 PM »

As fairy already said, Carina did a terrific job  Jumping
I've tried my skills too and translated some parts!
Enjoy  Icecream
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When Maxima was at school, she answered the yearbook question of what she wants to do in her life with: “Too much to write it all down”
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Laurencio Adot (childhood friend of Maxima):
“She was always surrounded by friends. She was very humorous and adventurous. At the same time, she was a bit shy. She had a pretty strict catholic upbringing, at home and at school. During the summer then used to go out and have fun.
How shall I describe Maxima? She’s like a perfume. Maybe like a French perfume. A very fresh scent but very intensive. A scent you don’t forget.”

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At the age of 18, Maxima enrolled at the Catholic University of Buenos Aires and studied economics. Afterwards, she had no problems finding a job; she started working for an American Bank. Says her former boss, Mario Rossi:
“I think Maxima often surprised people with her relaxed and unconventional being. In the evening she sometimes used to walk barefoot around the office because her feet hurt. She was very intelligent and could cope easily with difficult situations. And she had the special gift of approaching people and charming them.”
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Laurencio Adot (childhood friend of Maxima):
“She was sad because she had to leave Argentina, her friends and her family behind. I told her: you’ll never find a suitable husband here. She looked at me and said: “Laurencio, do you really believe that?” And I said: Yes, it will be really difficult to find a man who values such a smart girl like you are. Somehow I was sure that in New York, she’d find what she was looking for.”
(At the age of 25, Maxima moved to New York where she lived in Chelsea. She worked as sales manager for Deutsche Bank)
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In August 1999, Beatrix invited Maxima to Porto Ercole, Tuscany (where the family spends the summer holidays)
Maxima: “I have to say I was very nervous. But it went well. Alexander’s mother asked a few questions – and she did so very directly – she wanted to know what I did in New York, and what I wanted to do with my life. And how my old life looked like. Claus spoke to me in Spanish which I thought was great. He wanted to know more about Argentina, about the literature and the art and my life there. And all in Spanish!”
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Avi Primor (friend of the royal family) (Carina already translated this part):
“Claus was the first one who understood that Maxima was a very good element. He wanted to know what I think about her. So he invited me to dinner. Maxima was also there but I didn’t know who she was. I was very impressed by her. It was a wonderful talk and she was extremely nice and had a lot of charisma. Later, Claus asked me what think about her and I said I’m absolutely delighted … and I asked “Who is that?”
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Engagement interview March 30, 2001
(There was the huge controversy going on about Maxima’s father and about an interview Willem-Alexander gave in New York on March 6, 2001, in which he claimed that Maxima’s father had been exonerated by a reader’s letter. When asked if he knew who wrote that letter, WA had to admit he didn’t know. It turned out that that letter was in fact written by ex-general Videla)

Back to engagement interview:
Maxima and Willem-Alexander enter the room.

Reinildis van Oitzhyzen (royalty expert):
“There was absolute silence. Nobody said a word. There was death silence. When they came in, everybody remained seated. That was very embarrassing as if they were “thrown before the lions”. Then they said down and she had to answer questions on live TV.”
In fluent Dutch, Maxima read out that her father will not attend the wedding to allow her and WA to take the next step and that she’s very grateful for that.   

Then the question came why WA mentioned this letter (cf. above) in that interview.
With her answer, Maxima took the wind out of the journalists’ sail. She said: “That was bit stupid” (Laughter then in the audience).

Reinildis van Oitzhyzen (royalty expert):
“And at the end [of the engagement interview] everybody was thrilled about Maxima and has been ever since then. It was incredible how within half an hour, the atmosphere changed from minus 40 to plus 40.
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Wedding ceremony:
Miguel Reynal (friend of Maxima): 
“I was impressed by how natural she looked in that moment, very relaxed. She looked beautiful. She didn’t seem to be nervous at all.”

Tango played during the ceremony:
Miguel Reynal: “The tango evokes an immensely powerful feeling. I think it was in that moment that Maxima really realized that she would leave her family and country behind to live for the rest of her life in Europe.”
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Maxima on an engagement, she visited home for elderly people (wearing red dress and hat):
Maxima: So how long have you been living here?
Man: Ten years … and who are you by the way?
(Laughter)
Maxima: I am the wife of the crown prince.
Man: Maxima!
Maxima: Yes, Maxima, yes.
Man: (can’t understand what he says here)
Maxima: Do I look so differently in person?
Man: From the photos, yes.
Maxima: Well, I’m a bit pregnant.
(Laughter)   
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 06:00:11 PM »

Btw what I found quite interesting was that apparently Maxima caught WA attention at a party because she made photos of him, without his agreement. So her remark, that she didn't know who he was or what he was is a bit silly isn't it?
I have a colleague who likes taking picture of everybody in party (no matter he knows them or not) he said it is for his collection (I found it little bit annoying), may be Maxima also has the same reason and brought little camera everywhere (just like Q Sofia)
As well as her "when he came to New York to see me, I was a bit nerveous, because I had forgotten how he looked" Darling all you needed to do was look at the pix you made yourself....
may be at the beginning Maxima never thought that their relationship would continue and she didn't want to keep the pic of this average looking man in her picture collection then she just erased the picture (if it digital camera) or threw it out and forgot it.  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 06:52:56 PM »

I don't know, Galuh.  If I managed to grab a snap of a crown prince, I don't think I'd erase it from my collection.  I'd keep it, if only for its conversation value.  I have a feeling that Maxima was polishing her story for added entertainment value...and also to make herself look a little less like a predator.  But that's ok...she won in the end, didn't she? 
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 06:58:00 PM »

I don't know, Galuh.  If I managed to grab a snap of a crown prince, I don't think I'd erase it from my collection.  I'd keep it, if only for its conversation value.  I have a feeling that Maxima was polishing her story for added entertainment value...and also to make herself look a little less like a predator.  But that's ok...she won in the end, didn't she? 
I have the same feeling. This story sounds strange.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 07:14:08 PM »

Since it is 45min video a complete translation is a bit too much. But if you like I can do a translation of parts like the little interviews. However I believe Carina did a good job on this already.
Basically what the movie is about is how WA and Maxima met, the obsticles that needed to be overcome til the wedding and what the Netherlands are thought to have thought ( Roll Eyes)about this relationship. Plus some interviews with a "royal expert" , a republican, the pastor who wed them and a friend of Prince Claus. Plus some footage of the engagement, the wedding and the engagement interview.

Btw what I found quite interesting was that apparently Maxima caught WA attention at a party because she made photos of him, without his agreement. So her remark, that she didn't know who he was or what he was is a bit silly isn't it? As well as her "when he came to New York to see me, I was a bit nerveous, because I had forgotten how he looked" Darling all you needed to do was look at the pix you made yourself....

"I didnt know who he was"  Whistle Whistle sounds very familiar doesnt it?Highly unlikely with the pics ,same as another princess when the prince had an ID hanging around his neck.Perhaps Mary borrowed a leaf from Maxima?
However, I must say that excerpts from the Video as translated here make Maxima sound very likable and charming.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 07:19:15 PM »

I also remember that Maxima did knew there was a prince in that party.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2007, 07:47:35 PM »

I don't know, Galuh.  If I managed to grab a snap of a crown prince, I don't think I'd erase it from my collection.  I'd keep it, if only for its conversation value  
So do I Chris (I will keep it if the picture is not blurred Wink). I just thought about many possibilities why she didn’t have a look the picture she took Thinking
I have a feeling that Maxima was polishing her story for added entertainment value...and also to make herself look a little less like a predator.  But that's ok...she won in the end, didn't she? 
That also possible, perhaps to make it sounds more like a fairy tale thing Princess frog2 (I like this smiley) 
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2007, 08:51:15 PM »

thanks for the translation Fairy and Galuh. but you all lost me here, who is Carina, the one who translated the interview?
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2007, 09:19:18 PM »

thanks for the translation Fairy and Galuh. but you all lost me here, who is Carina, the one who translated the interview?
uhmmm... wear it is fairy and hermione (not me) who translated the video Wink

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2007, 09:50:14 PM »

And I didn't do much to earn a praise.
Great job, Hermione, it would have taken me forever to translate that so perfectly. (and probably burn a hole in my dictionary Roll Eyes)
Carina is Anirac, and she translated parts of it on the thread about Mary and Fred on German TV.
Today btw the show was about the norwegian couple. However since I just got home, I missed it. I will try to catch up on it via the ZDF webside.
So either we start a thread about the Norwegians or we change this thread into a ZDF: european crown princely couples. (which is a bit incorrect, they left out the Belgians Sad)
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2007, 06:09:26 AM »

thanks for the translation Fairy and Galuh. but you all lost me here, who is Carina, the one who translated the interview?

anirac's translation was in the "Dutch Royal News Thread". For convenience, I've copied it here.
Hope it's okay anirac  Wink
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The Greman television channel ZDF started a new serie about the crown princes and the only crown princess. Last week it started with Victoria. This week we can see Willem-Alexander and Maxima. At the homepage of ZDF you can watch the documentary about Victoria,but also can see parts of interviews from the part of Alex and Max. They are all in german, that's why I tried to translate the interviews. I hope my English is not so bad and you can understand it.

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/i...23/0,1872,5559511,00.html

Hans van den Bergh (republican)

You are an adversary of the monarchy. Which arguments militate against the monarchy?

He said it has nothing to do with the people of the Royal House. The Problem is the principle of subject or hierarchy. It is a result of the middle age and include that there is a sovereign deploying by God and all others are depend on him. It is undemocratically. And they (the Republicans) want to change it and make it more democratically like the elections of the mayors.   

How would you evaluate the work of the Royal Family?

Van den Bergh accepted that Queen Beatrix makes a wonderful job, but he criticized her enormous influence in the formation of the government. 

Which power should the Queen have?

No Power like in Sweden. She should cut ribbons, spread out medals and awards, but nothing else. “The less power she has, the merrier it is.” 

How do you judge about the social work of Willem-Alexander and Maxima?

They look very involved with social things, like water management and micro credits. But it is just for the PR. It comes from other people, who say that they must do it. In reality they give much less attention to such things. It is just for the show.  

Didn’t raise the popularity of the Royal House mainly because of Maxima?

He would say yes, but the most people have a sentimental preference for babies. The girls look very cute, also Maxima looks nice, but it has nothing to do with the principles of the system. If somebody is popular that doesn’t mean that the bigger part of the nation supporting the system. But if the Netherlands become a republic, the Royal House would be allowed to stay. 

Which point of view do you have, when you think about the political past of Maxima’s father?

At the one hand you can say, that she is innocent, but at the other hand she raised up in a family with a questionable opinion about democracy. And these are bad premises for the future Queen of the Netherlands.

Reinildis van Ditzhuyzen (historican)

Where did the prince and Maxima meet each other?

They met at a party in Seville and it was love at the third sign (Alexander said). He was very angry because there was a girl, which took photos of him. But after a while she asked him, if she could do this. And so the relationship started. 

Did Beatrix has any imaginations about the future wife of the crown prince?

Beatrix had an idea about the monarchy and also about a good crown princess. She preferred a foreigner, because there would be fewer friends in the Netherlands, who would talk about the past of the woman. She wanted someone, who is able to deal with this demanding job. And she favoured somebody of the upper class, because these girls “know to behave”.  

What kind of person is Maxima?

She is a very natural person, genuine, authentic, open, informal, charming and open. You can just speak in superlatives. She is a natural in every circles whether upper class or lower classes. 

How did the Netherlands responsive to the engagement of Willem-Alexander and Maxima?

It was a mood of crisis, because nobody know, if Alexander would give up his right to the throne and choose his great love.    

Is Willem-Alexander prepared for his function as head of state?

He is very well prepared for this function. If something would happen today he could accept this office. He is very promising.   



Avi Primor (best friend of the late prince Claus)

What kind of person is Willem-Alexander?

He is very pleasant like his two brothers. But they are more reserved. All three are very intellectual and friendly. Alexander is very open and give the feeling, that you always feel comfortable in his present.
Did Queen Beatrix had any influence of the decision of her son?

No, he was very independent in his decision. He is very sporty and have many friends and in these circles he also had many girlfriends. And he was like every other boy. Not every time the parents knew his girlfriends. Sometimes they didn’t know why. It was very normal.  

How did Beatrix and Claus react, when they found out about the past of Maxima’s father?

They made the difference between the family in Argentina and Maxima. They saw Maxima as the person she was: worthy and able to fulfill the duty. And they saw how much in love they were. That was one of the main arguments. The person Maxima was important, not the past of her father. They thought a lot about it. 

How was the relationship between Claus and Maxima?

He was the first who understood her. Claus invited him to a dinner with Maxima around 2000/ 2001. And he didn’t know who the person was, but she impressed him. She was nice and had an enormous charisma. And Claus asked him, what he thought about her. Claus would know if his personal impression was really a personal or if other also thought the same about her. He really understood and supported her. 

How would you describe the relationship of Willem-Alexander and Maxima?

They are still very much in love. You also see it when they are with the kids and that reminds him of Alexander’s parents, who also were so much in love. It is not artificial. It is genuine.     
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