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\"Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.\" (Václav Havel)
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What Marie seems to master is small talk. The way she answered questions and added to what Joachim had to say (notably allowing him to answer first, unless she was specifically addressed - Mary take note of who is the true royal in your relationship!), illustrates that she is comfortable enough to be able to follow along and add the small talk that foreigners tell me is the hardest and last thing to master in Danish. I know from learning other languages that the small talk and minor observations are what has come last and requires a certain confidence in one's abilities in the language to do in as relaxed a way as she seemed to in the video from the hospital. I couldn't care less about accents, I'm more interested in grammatical correctness and fluidity when speaking. Mary pauses too much and hmmms and uuuhs too much. She also makes major pronunciation mistakes that are not a question of accent, but laziness, such as the masturbating Africans!  |
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2005 now pede,  well done, all all those great posts that got you those stars |
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2005 now pede, well done, all all those great posts that got you those stars awww  thank you tiger,  |
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What Marie seems to master is small talk. The way she answered questions and added to what Joachim had to say (notably allowing him to answer first, unless she was specifically addressed - Mary take note of who is the true royal in your relationship!), illustrates that she is comfortable enough to be able to follow along and add the small talk that foreigners tell me is the hardest and last thing to master in Danish. I know from learning other languages that the small talk and minor observations are what has come last and requires a certain confidence in one's abilities in the language to do in as relaxed a way as she seemed to in the video from the hospital. I couldn't care less about accents, I'm more interested in grammatical correctness and fluidity when speaking. Mary pauses too much and hmmms and uuuhs too much. She also makes major pronunciation mistakes that are not a question of accent, but laziness, such as the masturbating Africans! Thrilla, when Pickles made the masturbating Africans faux pas, what word was she trying to say. Does that word and masturbating sound / look similar in Danish and would it be an easy mistake to make? |
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Freethespoon, if you allow me... She tried to say "Underernærede" (malnourished/undernourished) and ended up saying "onanerede" (masturbating). My very little basic knowledge in Norwegian (quite similar to Danish) reminds me that we don't hear the first "d" in underernærede -hence the fact she talked about masturbation instead of malnourishment)... Mary mispronounced the "un" and then totally skipped one syllabe. If you pronounce it correctly, the two words don't sound the same at all. If you're not danish, like me, you may struggle pronouncing "underernærede" because the syllabes are quite difficult to coordinate between them. It's a very "nasal" word. On the other hand, you'll have no problem at all pronouncing "onanerede" because the sounds in this word exist in almost every language and there's no nasal sound, nor weird vowel. As a foreigner learning a scandinavian language, I'd say that it's the kind of mistake that happens when you try to say too quickly a word whose pronounciation you don't really know/master. That's all for my experienced experience of danish language...  Obviously, she was trying to sound fluent. It might be a slip and I know that scandinavian pronounciation can be rather tricky but she flew out to Somalia on purpose to help raising awareness for the africans suffering from starvation, I guess one would have expected more preparation... And that comes with rehearsing the danish words linked to the subject, IMO... Especially if your interview is aired on live on a national channel... That must have been very embarrassing for the DRF. |
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[...] I guess one would have expected more preparation... And that comes with rehearsing the danish words linked to the subject, IMO... Especially if your interview is aired on live on a national channel...
Princess Milkmould has never ever prepared for anything other than shopping at high-end boutiques. Why should she start now?  |
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Maluna
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I was very surprised about Marie's danish - she is very good, I think! There was quite noisy at the hospital when they left with the little princess - but she seemed to be focused and she answered the questions with a brilliant danish! Even better (a whole lot, actually) than Mary. I've read an interview where she told about how important it was for her, to be able to speak a good danish, so that she could talk to everyone at many different occasions - so she'd made a rule at home, that prince Joachim had to talk to her in danish, but after seven in the evening, she needed to "relax", and therefore they switched into french.  |
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I was very surprised about Marie's danish - she is very good, I think! There was quite noisy at the hospital when they left with the little princess - but she seemed to be focused and she answered the questions with a brilliant danish! Even better (a whole lot, actually) than Mary. I've read an interview where she told about how important it was for her, to be able to speak a good danish, so that she could talk to everyone at many different occasions - so she'd made a rule at home, that prince Joachim had to talk to her in danish, but after seven in the evening, she needed to "relax", and therefore they switched into french. It's good that she made the rule. I've read the Alex also asked that people speak danish to her when she was learning. I think this shows Joachim chose woman who wanted to be a part of his life and country. Unfortunately Freddie chose a woman that would rather be Crown Princess of Prada then of Denmark. |
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