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« on: May 12, 2011, 08:20:24 AM »

Photoshop disaster: Hillary Clinton out of paper's war room photo

Der Tzitung cuts Hillary Clinton out of the iconic picture of government leaders watching the Bin Laden hit.

Seriously?  What the...I don't even...and the point is?

Photoshop takes the too-hot-to-handle men out.

Photoshop puts the ladies back in the paper.

(I'm too lazy to save the images and upload them to photobucket so hopefully you'll see it at the link.)
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 08:45:22 AM »

Actually there is a reason for the removal of Hillary and Audrey Tomason (director of counter terrorism) from the photo. 

This paper is published by an ultra, ultra conservative group of Hasidim living in Brooklyn, New York. They believe in sexual modesty policy for woman (of their own group, not world wide).

No question, the men at these newspapers are being sexist. Not terribly surprising from a religion that requires its women wear wigs and many to shave their heads upon marriage so as not to risk being attractive to any other man.

But while Americans are arguing over whether it's right that the Hasidim have a woman problem, let's put that one to bed. This isn't about sexism. Their religion has a constitutionally-protected right to treat its women this way, provided the women are willing participants in the religion.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 11:52:04 AM »

Don't get me started or else I'll explode!!  Ranting
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 12:01:28 PM »

if this isn't about sexism i do not know what it is about.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 04:12:40 PM »

I'm not really going to comment on the sexism or their beliefs but I will say this: the White House specifically said that it couldn't be altered in any way.  Which I didn't know.  Which makes all the photoshops bad or whatever.

Also, the photoshop that takes the men out is a direct response to the reason why the (two) ladies (one that's barely seen) were taken out.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 07:59:30 PM »

Could someone please explain to me why this is not sexism?

Just because it is religion it doesn't mean that it is not sexism or what?

I could invent a religion where men wasn't allowed to vote. That doesn't mean that it isn't sexism.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 08:19:44 PM »

It's a deeply rooted hatred and fear of women
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 09:16:15 PM »

Could someone please explain to me why this is not sexism?

No one is saying it isn't sexism.  Odette is just saying that you can't debate over whether they should be allowed to be sexist.  They are allowed as long as the women in that religion have the right not to participate in it or not.  (Please, correct me if I am mistaken.)
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 09:24:14 PM »

Could someone please explain to me why this is not sexism?

No one is saying it isn't sexism.  Odette is just saying that you can't debate over whether they should be allowed to be sexist.  They are allowed as long as the women in that religion have the right not to participate in it or not.  (Please, correct me if I am mistaken.)

Thanks  Thumb up I think that was a beautiful deduction of the issue.  Grin

Perhaps we can debate that some religions have a tendency to be all about hating women.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 09:40:35 PM »

Perhaps we can debate that some religions have a tendency to be all about hating women.

I think it's too subjective.  Some people feel that the Muslim coverings are about hating women while some would rightly argue that's not at all the case (I'm not educated enough to tell you why without sounding like and idiot).
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 09:47:24 PM »

Perhaps we can debate that some religions have a tendency to be all about hating women.

I think it's too subjective.  Some people feel that the Muslim coverings are about hating women while some would rightly argue that's not at all the case (I'm not educated enough to tell you why without sounding like and idiot).

I think you are too modest now  Grin

I think the debate in all fairnes has to conclude that somehow all religions are pro men 
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 09:50:31 PM »

More the monotheistic religions. A German cabaret artist: "monotheistic religions are wet men dreams"   Laughing


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