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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2011, 12:20:15 AM »

[quote author=SilverQT link=topic=8306.msg317511#msg317511 date=1305531046

Because that's the crowd she hangs with?  Where does it say one must have friends from all walks of life? I certainly don't. My friends are people I have things in common with, people I went to school with, people I work with which ultimately means people who are more ore less on the same wage level with me. It's not by design either, that's just the way things have played out. Or are people suggesting that Pippa as a "commoner" should not have aristocrats as friends/boyfriends? And if she does, it means she's gunning for something? We don't know that ALL her friends are aristocrats, those girls she was pictured with, who are they? Although if even they were all Lords and Ladys, I can't see the problem.

She dated the Duke's son a while ago and they split up; someone as conniving and devious as people seem to be implying would have clung on until she got that ring on her finger. There would have been no break up. The duke's family hasn't suddenly come into money and now she's interested. They shared a flat at uni and have been friends for years and years and years. She's known these far wealthier men for ages and yet chose to date Alex the banker for a year now.Not exactly the smartest mercenary groom-hunter is she?  Wink[/quote]

Hi. Thanks for the reply.Does that mean Pippa has an aristocratic background and the same wage/income/family wealth as George Percy (with Duke title & $$$$) as well numerous other wealthy men with money  she is acquinted with? What would Pippa have in common with those men besides going to school with George P? Do they wrap each other with toilet paper, go skinny dipping on yachts, bake cupcakes & talk/count money all day long? You did say that people made friends with & hung with people of same background & social class.

I'm not saying that being a commoner you can't have aristocratic friends. It all boils down to your motives. What I've seen of Pippa and her family indicates social climbing and a strong desire to bag rich husbands and focus specifically someone with a title & LOTS LOTS of $$$$$$.

Pippa couldn't care less that her female friends are aristocratic or not- unless she's a lesbian than it would matter to her as they'd have to have a countess/lady/duchess title & lots of $$$$$. Roll Eyes

Also, about Pippa sticking around & clinging to the future Duke guy till she got a ring. We don't know the full story - perhaps after they broke up George Percy ordered a restraining order so she'd back off.  Crazy Back then Pippa did not have much going for her as Kate hadn't won the golden goose yet. The Middleton's were just the average family -even with their business Party pieces just wasn't good enough to sell Pippa and help her get her hands inside the aristocrats/rich guys vault. I do think that she was using Alex or he was just the plaything for the year - to fill in time until she found THE "RIGHT" ONE! a guy with the title/or in line for one - plus have LOTS of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2011, 12:28:50 AM »

Pippa needs to bag the Percy, and find a rich wife/husband for James.

The Boelyn's:
Anne: bagged the King of England
Mary: aimed high, but married to minor noble, eventually married a commoner
George: gay, in the closet, married rich heiress

The Middletons:
Kate: now Catherine, Duchess of Camebridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus, future Princess of Wales and Queen of England
Pippa: possibly Philippa Charlotte Percy, Countess Percy, future Duchess of Northumberland. Husband dies/divorces/she cheats on him and marries commoner Alex or somene else
James: marries some wealthy heiress, keeps a little 'male friend' on the side or two.


Pippa should do at least better than Mary, no Sir for her, only fancy title need apply. And James, I guess he could marry a Scot, could marry a future clan female chief, there are a few, but I think he'll have to settle for no title.


As for Pippa hanging out with blue blood plumbers and such, would be even more fake than she already is. We know she doesn't associate with those kind of people. She has spent her life and education with the upper crust, and her family may be new money but money none the less. It is like Kate and Will trying to be average Joe's, fake.

Thanks Countess for all the interesting info. Enjoy your comments - as always so entertaining & hilarious! Thumb up
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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2011, 01:50:44 AM »

Pippa's Spain adventure made the US news. That white bridesmaid's dress must have had magical abilities.  Crazy

http://www.nydailynews.co...spain_with_exboyfrie.html

The white dress has the magic to allow one family to climb to the highest rungs on the social class ladder. What a climb this family has had!  Shocked
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« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2011, 05:17:57 AM »

Pippa needs to bag the Percy, and find a rich wife/husband for James.

The Boelyn's:
Anne: bagged the King of England
Mary: aimed high, but married to minor noble, eventually married a commoner
George: gay, in the closet, married rich heiress

The Middletons:
Kate: now Catherine, Duchess of Camebridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus, future Princess of Wales and Queen of England
Pippa: possibly Philippa Charlotte Percy, Countess Percy, future Duchess of Northumberland. Husband dies/divorces/she cheats on him and marries commoner Alex or somene else
James: marries some wealthy heiress, keeps a little 'male friend' on the side or two.


Pippa should do at least better than Mary, no Sir for her, only fancy title need apply. And James, I guess he could marry a Scot, could marry a future clan female chief, there are a few, but I think he'll have to settle for no title.


As for Pippa hanging out with blue blood plumbers and such, would be even more fake than she already is. We know she doesn't associate with those kind of people. She has spent her life and education with the upper crust, and her family may be new money but money none the less. It is like Kate and Will trying to be average Joe's, fake.

Very funny Countess. 

Anne got to be Queen, but it wasn't long lived (and neither was she!). 

I remember that there were many comparisons to Henry VIII deposing a beloved Queen (Katherine of Aragon) for the "Great Whore" Anne Boleyn when he pushed aside Diana for Camilla. 

History has a funny way of repeating itself.
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« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2011, 07:51:12 AM »



Very funny Countess. 

Anne got to be Queen, but it wasn't long lived (and neither was she!). 

I remember that there were many comparisons to Henry VIII deposing a beloved Queen (Katherine of Aragon) for the "Great Whore" Anne Boleyn when he pushed aside Diana for Camilla. 

History has a funny way of repeating itself.
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Thank you.  But hopefully not too much of a repeat. At least Kate doesn't have to worry they'll behead her for an affair.  No
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« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2011, 08:26:34 AM »


Hi. Thanks for the reply.Does that mean Pippa has an aristocratic background and the same wage/income/family wealth as George Percy (with Duke title & $$$$) as well numerous other wealthy men with money  she is acquinted with? What would Pippa have in common with those men besides going to school with George P? Do they wrap each other with toilet paper, go skinny dipping on yachts, bake cupcakes & talk/count money all day long? You did say that people made friends with & hung with people of same background & social class.

Her family is wealthy. Perhaps not as wealthy as the George Percy's family but wealthy enough that they share the same social circle.  And we have no idea what they do in their spare time, perhaps they DO wrap each other in toilet paper and take skinnny dipping trips. Rich people can do silly things too you know. Let's not kid ourselves that the royals/aristocrats would be interested in socialising with anyone that they don't consider to be "worthy" of their attention. They for instance don't have friends that are plumbers or carpenters.

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I'm not saying that being a commoner you can't have aristocratic friends. It all boils down to your motives. What I've seen of Pippa and her family indicates social climbing and a strong desire to bag rich husbands and focus specifically someone with a title & LOTS LOTS of $$$$$$.

Pippa couldn't care less that her female friends are aristocratic or not- unless she's a lesbian than it would matter to her as they'd have to have a countess/lady/duchess title & lots of $$$$$. Roll Eyes


It does all boil down to motives. I'm just not sure why people are so sure Pippa's are less than altruistic.  

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Also, about Pippa sticking around & clinging to the future Duke guy till she got a ring. We don't know the full story - perhaps after they broke up George Percy ordered a restraining order so she'd back off.  Crazy Back then Pippa did not have much going for her as Kate hadn't won the golden goose yet. The Middleton's were just the average family -even with their business Party pieces just wasn't good enough to sell Pippa and help her get her hands inside the aristocrats/rich guys vault. I do think that she was using Alex or he was just the plaything for the year - to fill in time until she found THE "RIGHT" ONE! a guy with the title/or in line for one - plus have LOTS of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Exactly, we don't know the full story. But alot of assumptions are being made regardless and I just don't agree with most of them. Look, I'm not saying the girl is a saint. Nor am I claiming that she's not enjoying the attention. But people seem prepared to think the worst of her and I'm not sure I understand why.
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« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2011, 08:43:47 AM »

Hi SilverQT,
Thanks for the lengthy & detailed explanations.  Since the Middleton sister's are on the front cover of all our magazines & newspapers I find the whole Pippa/Kate & media thingy fascinating from all angles. 
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« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2011, 10:32:46 AM »

Pippa needs to bag the Percy, and find a rich wife/husband for James.

The Boelyn's:
Anne: bagged the King of England
Mary: aimed high, but married to minor noble, eventually married a commoner
George: gay, in the closet, married rich heiress

The Middletons:
Kate: now Catherine, Duchess of Camebridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus, future Princess of Wales and Queen of England
Pippa: possibly Philippa Charlotte Percy, Countess Percy, future Duchess of Northumberland. Husband dies/divorces/she cheats on him and marries commoner Alex or somene else
James: marries some wealthy heiress, keeps a little 'male friend' on the side or two.


Pippa should do at least better than Mary, no Sir for her, only fancy title need apply. And James, I guess he could marry a Scot, could marry a future clan female chief, there are a few, but I think he'll have to settle for no title.


As for Pippa hanging out with blue blood plumbers and such, would be even more fake than she already is. We know she doesn't associate with those kind of people. She has spent her life and education with the upper crust, and her family may be new money but money none the less. It is like Kate and Will trying to be average Joe's, fake.

Very funny Countess.  

Anne got to be Queen, but it wasn't long lived (and neither was she!).  

I remember that there were many comparisons to Henry VIII deposing a beloved Queen (Katherine of Aragon) for the "Great Whore" Anne Boleyn when he pushed aside Diana for Camilla.  

History has a funny way of repeating itself.

how so?

katherine of aragon would have remained a queen had she given birth to sons. and anne boleyn would not have lost her head had she given the long awaited son to henry. diana would not have been pushed aside had she closed her eyes on charles' unfaithfulness (and she too could have carried on with her affairs).
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« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2011, 10:52:19 AM »

SilverQT: To be honest although the Midds are wealthy they weren't socialising with nobility/aristo-set prior to Kate/William. If they had been then the whole "doors to manual" scenario wouldn't have come about.

Pippa certainly would have been friends with monied people and could probably have always expected to "marry money" but she is moving in a stratesphere far beyond what would reasonably be expected had her sister not married royalty IMO.
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« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2011, 03:29:11 PM »

^^^^Good post!
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« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2011, 03:42:52 PM »

SilverQT: To be honest although the Midds are wealthy they weren't socialising with nobility/aristo-set prior to Kate/William. If they had been then the whole "doors to manual" scenario wouldn't have come about.

Pippa certainly would have been friends with monied people and could probably have always expected to "marry money" but she is moving in a stratesphere far beyond what would reasonably be expected had her sister not married royalty IMO.

she moved in that sphere before her sister got married though.

no doubt however that her sister's marriage has increased her profile and suitability.
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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2011, 04:01:35 PM »

SilverQT: To be honest although the Midds are wealthy they weren't socialising with nobility/aristo-set prior to Kate/William. If they had been then the whole "doors to manual" scenario wouldn't have come about.

Pippa certainly would have been friends with monied people and could probably have always expected to "marry money" but she is moving in a stratesphere far beyond what would reasonably be expected had her sister not married royalty IMO.

she moved in that sphere before her sister got married though.


no doubt however that her sister's marriage has increased her profile and suitability.

Sorry - you are correct Cara - I shouldn't have said married royalty...started dating is what I meant
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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2011, 06:31:34 PM »

SilverQT: To be honest although the Midds are wealthy they weren't socialising with nobility/aristo-set prior to Kate/William. If they had been then the whole "doors to manual" scenario wouldn't have come about.

Pippa certainly would have been friends with monied people and could probably have always expected to "marry money" but she is moving in a stratesphere far beyond what would reasonably be expected had her sister not married royalty IMO.

she moved in that sphere before her sister got married though.

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« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2011, 06:48:19 PM »

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but the extreme focus on class distinction, who belongs where and who is overstepping their class boundary is disturbing to say the least. Its 2011 not 1811.
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« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2011, 07:31:57 PM »

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but the extreme focus on class distinction, who belongs where and who is overstepping their class boundary is disturbing to say the least. Its 2011 not 1811.

 Had either of the Middleton sisters ever actually done anything worth discussing other than slept with well known/ well heeled gentlemen then this discussion wouldn't be taking place.

It really isn't that difficult to keep yourself out of the papers/gossip columns - the Spencers did it practically the entire time Diana was married to Charles, the Rhys-Jones' manage it, the Kelly's manage it, the Tindall's manage it etc. etc.....theres a reasons the Midds can't and it aint good deeds done.

All IMO of course
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