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I probably made an idiot of myself at my 1997 wedding because my groomsmen wore black watch tartan plaid (is that redundant?) vests under their black suit jackets. It was very subtle. Then, my junior bridesmaid wore a dress that the top was like the regular bridesmaids but the bottom was black watch tartan and my flower girls had black watch tartan ties on their dresses at the waist. I'm not Scottish and I married a New York Italian. I'm mostly German and from Texas. Was that a huge faux pas?  Haha yes tartan and plaid mean the same thing  I found this little bit of advice...... Tradition has it that those who have no tartan of their own can wear the Black Watch (The Universal or Government Tartan) or the Hunting Stewart, but not the Royal Stewart without the express authority of the Queen. However, commercialisation in recent times has rather blurred this. I guess for me, I was concerned with the reports of the Scottish "themed" reception, given that their only claim to the country is the fact the grooms father BOUGHT an estate (and the title that came with it)...... to me it would be like having a full-on Bollywood style Indian wedding, where neither of the couple has much tie to the country other than enjoying a tasty vindaloo! Its the fierce Scottish pride instilled in me by my father and grandmother! Then there is my husband's grandmother, who was piped to her grave by her grandson..... Seems in the end there was only a slight nod to the theme in some of the food, which I'm totally fine with I totally get the cultural appropriation argument, but I could understand the nod to Scotland if, say, James & Pips maybe met & fell in love in Scotland. However, when those stories came out about the Scottish theme I couldn't understand why they just didn't have the wedding in Scotland at the grooms property if it was that important to them. |
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^ In one of the articles of the best man's speech it's noted by the best man that supposedly James & Pippa met in 2009 in Scotland, so maybe that's the reason why they had Scottish elements and where their fondness for Scotland comes from. Not to forget the years at uni Pippa spent there plus the bought estate & title. I'd say these are pretty strong ties to Scotland for these two non-Scots.
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evilgrapefruit
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I can't stand the Middletons but according to this website they do have some Scottish ancestry http://ethnicelebs.com/ca...rine-duchess-of-cambridge. In any event, I personally think if you are from the UK it isn't cultural appropriation to celebrate elements of culture coming from any of the countries within the UK and also Ireland because so many of us have Irish links too. These islands have been a melting pot for centuries, we have a shared heritage, we stand together when it matters and I am fairly sure our ancestors got around a bit and swapped DNA so there are no pure bloods...  (or maybe that is just my family!) |
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I can't stand the Middletons but according to this website they do have some Scottish ancestry http://ethnicelebs.com/ca...rine-duchess-of-cambridge. In any event, I personally think if you are from the UK it isn't cultural appropriation to celebrate elements of culture coming from any of the countries within the UK and also Ireland because so many of us have Irish links too. These islands have been a melting pot for centuries, we have a shared heritage, we stand together when it matters and I am fairly sure our ancestors got around a bit and swapped DNA so there are no pure bloods... (or maybe that is just my family!) Not just your family! :D And how far back are we supposed to go to trace our true heritage? To the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, the Picts, Scots, Celts, Britons? |
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I can't stand the Middletons but according to this website they do have some Scottish ancestry http://ethnicelebs.com/ca...rine-duchess-of-cambridge. In any event, I personally think if you are from the UK it isn't cultural appropriation to celebrate elements of culture coming from any of the countries within the UK and also Ireland because so many of us have Irish links too. These islands have been a melting pot for centuries, we have a shared heritage, we stand together when it matters and I am fairly sure our ancestors got around a bit and swapped DNA so there are no pure bloods... (or maybe that is just my family!) yup. They're even related to God himself Reminds me of Pippin and Frodo Baggins: Pippin: [at the bar] "Sure I know a Baggins. He's over there, Frodo Baggins." Pippin: "He's my second cousin, once removed on his mother's side" [listeners laugh, "It works for him!" yells one] "and my third cousin twice removed on his father's side, if you follow me." http://www.tk421.net/lotr/film/fotr/11.htmlG  |
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ANDREW DENTON: Yes. What did... When you first met, what did you see in each other? CROWN PRINCE FREDERIK: What did we see in each other? We saw... Well, it's a bit hard. It's a bit blurry, in a way, because it was just after the Olympics had started and it was one of those evenings where...
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Don't know where to put it...so here it is:
March 4
Pippa Middleton pregnant with her 2nd child
On December 2020, it was confirmed that Pippa Middleton is pregnant with her second child.
In an interview with "Good Housekeeping" published on Thursday, March 4, 2021, Carole Middleton evokes with some joy the imminent arrival of her "new grandchild", thus confirming the pregnancy of her daughter Pippa.Louis, Charlotte and George are therefore preparing to meet their cousin. On the cover of the British magazine Good Housekeeping, Carole Middleton - the mother of Pippa, Kate and James -, made official the pregnancy of her daughter:
- "I hope to see more of my family, than I was able to do last year, and of course my new grandchild", said this 66-year-old grandmother who is bursting with energy.
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Don't know where to put it...so here it is:
March 4
Pippa Middleton pregnant with her 2nd child
On December 2020, it was confirmed that Pippa Middleton is pregnant with her second child.
In an interview with "Good Housekeeping" published on Thursday, March 4, 2021, Carole Middleton evokes with some joy the imminent arrival of her "new grandchild", thus confirming the pregnancy of her daughter Pippa.Louis, Charlotte and George are therefore preparing to meet their cousin. On the cover of the British magazine Good Housekeeping, Carole Middleton - the mother of Pippa, Kate and James -, made official the pregnancy of her daughter:
- "I hope to see more of my family, than I was able to do last year, and of course my new grandchild", said this 66-year-old grandmother who is bursting with energy.
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Cool your jets, everyone
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Pippa has given birth to daughter, Grace Elizabeth Jane, at 4.22am weighing 6lbs 7oz.
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Congrats to Pippa, James and Arthur on the arrival of Grace  |
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Reading can seriously damage your ignorance
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Lovely name! Congrats and blessings to the family!
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Congrats to their growing family. Beautiful name
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"I would sooner have you hate me for telling you the truth than adore me for telling you lies." Pietro Aretino
I would rather be hated for something I am, than loved for something I am not. -Bob Marley
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Principessa
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Pippa has given birth to daughter, Grace Elizabeth Jane, at 4.22am weighing 6lbs 7oz.
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Barrie
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Lovely name, I am not sure if the name Elizabeth has any personal meaning to them , but I like to think it is maybe a way of supporting HM during this difficult time? Anyways, happy news for the Middletons and Charlotte now has a female cousin which is nice.
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Lovely news and good for all the little cousins who will have so many playmates just within the family. Very pretty name too. Hope Pippa's doing well.
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I appreciate the Middletons not being grifters.  |
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