Princess Anne

[Future Crayon]

I didnt warm to Anne until she became a grandma, then I started to love the combination of no-nonsense, hard-working royal battleaxe and super-loving, hands-on grandmum

[tsarinya]

When they changed the line of succession so that a female didn’t lose her place to her male brother, I wonder why Anne’s place wasn’t changed. Would it be because Andrew would have kicked up a fuss with him and his daughters being pushed down the line?

[Jonathan]

It only applies to the descendants of Charles

[tsarinya]

It only applies to the descendants of Charles

It doesn’t just apply to the descendants of Charles, it applies to all born after 28 October 2011.
I’m just curious why it didn’t apply to those born the time?
Anne would be above Andrew and his daughters that way - I’m wondering if because Andrew is Elizabeth’s favourite that idea was not allowed?

[thecrownjewelthief]

It only applies to the descendants of Charles

It doesn’t just apply to the descendants of Charles, it applies to all born after 28 October 2011.
I’m just curious why it didn’t apply to those born the time?
Anne would be above Andrew and his daughters that way - I’m wondering if because Andrew is Elizabeth’s favourite that idea was not allowed?

Not everyone has changed the succession when they've switch to absolute primogeniture - Norway didn't either, it only applied to future generations as well, so I actually don't think it is an Andy thing. I actually think it's a little odd that the Belgians changed it up when it affected adult members of the family.

[Oh_Caroline]

It only applies to the descendants of Charles

It doesn’t just apply to the descendants of Charles, it applies to all born after 28 October 2011.
I’m just curious why it didn’t apply to those born the time?
Anne would be above Andrew and his daughters that way - I’m wondering if because Andrew is Elizabeth’s favourite that idea was not allowed?

Succession changes are only rarely applied to the established adult line.  The only one that I know of was Belgium in 1991...before the change the line was 1. Albert, 2. Philippe (b. 1960), and 3. Laurent (b. 1963).  With such a short line and changing it from agnatic primogeniture to absolute primogeniture it made sense to adjust the full line...1. Albert, 2. Philippe (b. 1960), 3. Astrid (b. 1962), 4. Amedeo (b. 1986), 5. Maria Astrid (b. 1988), 6. Laurent (b. 1963).  

In Sweden, Victoria was 2.5 years and CP was 7.5 months when they switched from agnatic primogeniture to absolute primogeniture so switching the kids made complete sense...and before the change the line was only 2 people long (post change 3 people).

Looking at other European monarchies...Denmark change from male-preference to absolute primogeniture in 2008 had no effect on the line at the time.  Luxembourg's changes for agnatic primogeniture to absolute primogeniture in 2011 is only for Grand Duke's Henri's descendants...so at the time only added Alexandra in before Sebastian.  The Netherlands went from male-preference to absolute primogeniture in 1983 but I don't think it affected anyone at the time.  

Norway did like the UK in 1991...kept Haakon (b. 1973) before Martha Louise (b. 1971) and just changed the line for their descendants.

Spain and Monaco are still male-preference and Liechtenstein is still agnatic primogeniture.

[tsarinya]

Very interesting replies! Thank you

What is the difference between male-preference and agnatic primogeniture?

[Kristallinchen]

Very interesting replies! Thank you

What is the difference between male-preference and agnatic primogeniture?

Male-preference: If a daughter is born and afterwards a son, the son will inherit. If no son's are born the daughter will inherit.

Agnatic primogeniture: No females are allowed to inherit.

[Countess of Cows]

All  I know is Anne is a big time presence and personality.  If I were pedoprince and saw her coming I'd run to the nearest exit to get away.  She's her father's daughter and I'm sure she doesn't suffer fools easily.  In a room full of people she'll maintain what is expected, one on one....I wouldn't be surprised if in a few words she could destroy you.

  Of the whole family, she's the one I'd want on my side, hands down I bet she'd show up.  I remember when she was almost kidnapped, you'd have thought she'd got a wrinkle in her dress and was just annoyed. 

She would have made a much better queen than chuck will as king  JMO  braver, smarter, not a whiner, sincerely caring and involved with all levels of society.

[LadyBunion]

Very interesting replies! Thank you

What is the difference between male-preference and agnatic primogeniture?

Male-preference: If a daughter is born and afterwards a son, the son will inherit. If no son's are born the daughter will inherit.

Agnatic primogeniture: No females are allowed to inherit.

There are some curious quirks in the succession now - Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus are both in the line of succession for the UK throne but Sverre Magnus is ahead of Ingrid Alexandra .

[SvenskaSarah]

All  I know is Anne is a big time presence and personality.  If I were pedoprince and saw her coming I'd run to the nearest exit to get away.  She's her father's daughter and I'm sure she doesn't suffer fools easily.  In a room full of people she'll maintain what is expected, one on one....I wouldn't be surprised if in a few words she could destroy you.

  Of the whole family, she's the one I'd want on my side, hands down I bet she'd show up.  I remember when she was almost kidnapped, you'd have thought she'd got a wrinkle in her dress and was just annoyed. 

She would have made a much better queen than chuck will as king  JMO  braver, smarter, not a whiner, sincerely caring and involved with all levels of society.

I think she's inherited some traits from Mary of Teck and QEQM too. They seemed pretty no-nonsense and understood public image and duty without the need for celebrity and fame. I think Anne is a wonderful asset to the Royal Family, a traditional princess. She would make a great mentor to George, Charlotte, Louis and Archie. In a way it makes me sad that her children have no official public role (though I totally get and admire Anne for refusing titles for her children) as I'd love to see how they'd carve a public role.

The story about her kidnapping makes me chuckle, only because of her response "no you bloody don't" I think is what she told her kidnappers!

[Lemon drizzle]

Anne would be a much better monarch than Charles

[Lady Liebe]

As the Patron of the Jersey Zoo/Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust Princess Anne was interviewed on a PBS special, What the Durrells Did Next this evening. I wanted to know more about her work with the zoo/conservation society so checked the website. Here is what they say about Anne:

Admiring her spirit, Gerald Durrell approached the young Princess to invite her to be the Trust’s Patron in 1972.

The Princess agreed to take on the role, with one condition – that the Trust make the role a demanding one! Gerald Durrell did not need asking twice! From this time on, The Princess Royal has worked tirelessly on behalf of Durrell, visiting its headquarters in Jersey every couple of years.

She has also visited many of the Trust’s overseas projects and students who have trained in Jersey at the Trust’s International Training Centre, in countries including Belize, Mauritius, Brazil and Madagascar.

It's classic Anne, and IMHO, a good primer of how to be a Patron.

[Ellie]

Anne does good stuff. I remember a quote about how Anne is always about being here to work and represent the charity or organization the best she can and always knows what is going on. She may be brusque and rude but I think she does a good job as a working royal.

[Future Crayon]

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