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« Reply #11565 on: April 29, 2021, 06:11:55 AM »

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You do know that the accepted practise when a law enforcement agency from one country wants to talk to someone who is a citizen of another they send representatives to that person's country and not the other way round.

Why don't you ask why hasn't the FBI sent agents to the UK to interview Andrew in the same way they would interview anyone else i.e. in the offices of the person's lawyers and under the rules of the country in which the interview is held, in this case PACE.

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« Reply #11566 on: April 29, 2021, 01:02:29 PM »

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You do know that the accepted practise when a law enforcement agency from one country wants to talk to someone who is a citizen of another they send representatives to that person's country and not the other way round.

Why don't you ask why hasn't the FBI sent agents to the UK to interview Andrew in the same way they would interview anyone else i.e. in the offices of the person's lawyers and under the rules of the country in which the interview is held, in this case PACE.



This!!!  Plus thereís the small matter of all the American men that were associated with Epstein.  Officials notching about Andrew not coming over, which is not the procedure, is a brilliant smoke screen to coverup their own failures.  Both Andrew and the FBI are in the wrong.
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« Reply #11567 on: April 29, 2021, 01:52:35 PM »

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You do know that the accepted practise when a law enforcement agency from one country wants to talk to someone who is a citizen of another they send representatives to that person's country and not the other way round.

Why don't you ask why hasn't the FBI sent agents to the UK to interview Andrew in the same way they would interview anyone else i.e. in the offices of the person's lawyers and under the rules of the country in which the interview is held, in this case PACE.


Not a fan of Andrew's, but this has troubled me about the calls for him to "turn himself" in. Doesn't a country have to request the extradition of a citizen from another country to face criminal charges? Did he commit the alleged crimes in the US or a US territory? Why isn't Scotland Yard involved? What authority does the FBI have over citizens of another sovereign country?

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This!!!  Plus thereís the small matter of all the American men that were associated with Epstein.  Officials notching about Andrew not coming over, which is not the procedure, is a brilliant smoke screen to coverup their own failures.  Both Andrew and the FBI are in the wrong.

Yes! The BILLion dollar question!
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« Reply #11568 on: April 29, 2021, 02:55:12 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.
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« Reply #11569 on: April 29, 2021, 03:02:42 PM »

I suspect Scotland Yard and FBI have been in touch and we know nothing about it. I speculate.

Heís only wanted for questioning, right? Why doesnít he? I think he knows a lot about the characters involved and isnít saying. My question is why not?

At the end of the day, high level, rich people protect themselves and each other and probably are above  the law. For many centuries.

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« Reply #11570 on: April 29, 2021, 03:22:39 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesn’t mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK they’d either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didn’t consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasn’t freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epstein’s crime and he’s dead.

But yeah...they can’t prove he committed a crime so they can’t issue an arrest warrant.  They haven’t follow normal channels for a discussion either. 
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« Reply #11571 on: April 29, 2021, 03:32:48 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesnít mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK theyíd either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didnít consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasnít freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epsteinís crime and heís dead.

But yeah...they canít prove he committed a crime so they canít issue an arrest warrant.  They havenít follow normal channels for a discussion either. 

Someone with any decency and nothing to hide would gladly talk. And yea that goes for all the American bigwigs too.

Andrews excuses are weak sauce. What a hill to die on, Your Royal Highness.
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« Reply #11572 on: April 29, 2021, 03:45:56 PM »

He's determined not to learn, change, improve or just go away.

And seriously, does he have a single friend who isn't a sleaze, predator or a gunrunner

Only his daughters and I feel sorry for them having to deal with him AND Fergie.

does randy andy owe these crocroaches favours in return for woteva that he continues to do this sort of behaviour? Blink

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The sad part is that he probably thinks he does, or itís tribalism (sleazes stick together).
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« Reply #11573 on: April 29, 2021, 04:00:35 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesnít mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK theyíd either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didnít consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasnít freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epsteinís crime and heís dead.

But yeah...they canít prove he committed a crime so they canít issue an arrest warrant.  They havenít follow normal channels for a discussion either. 

Someone with any decency and nothing to hide would gladly talk. And yea that goes for all the American bigwigs too.

Andrews excuses are weak sauce. What a hill to die on, Your Royal Highness.

I respectfully disagree.

Talking when you are not required to is the fastest way of talking yourself into a charge.

Andrew should only talk wen a formal request has been made by the FBI for questioning and he knows in what capacity he is being questioned as i.e. either a witness or a person of interest.
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« Reply #11574 on: April 29, 2021, 04:29:52 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesnít mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK theyíd either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didnít consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasnít freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epsteinís crime and heís dead.

But yeah...they canít prove he committed a crime so they canít issue an arrest warrant.  They havenít follow normal channels for a discussion either. 

Someone with any decency and nothing to hide would gladly talk. And yea that goes for all the American bigwigs too.

Andrews excuses are weak sauce. What a hill to die on, Your Royal Highness.

I respectfully disagree.

Talking when you are not required to is the fastest way of talking yourself into a charge.

Andrew should only talk wen a formal request has been made by the FBI for questioning and he knows in what capacity he is being questioned as i.e. either a witness or a person of interest.

I witnessed a horrible crime outside my home last yearÖmanaged to not talk myself into a charge.
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« Reply #11575 on: April 29, 2021, 06:22:52 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesnít mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK theyíd either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didnít consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasnít freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epsteinís crime and heís dead.

But yeah...they canít prove he committed a crime so they canít issue an arrest warrant.  They havenít follow normal channels for a discussion either. 

Someone with any decency and nothing to hide would gladly talk. And yea that goes for all the American bigwigs too.

Andrews excuses are weak sauce. What a hill to die on, Your Royal Highness.

I respectfully disagree.

Talking when you are not required to is the fastest way of talking yourself into a charge.

Andrew should only talk wen a formal request has been made by the FBI for questioning and he knows in what capacity he is being questioned as i.e. either a witness or a person of interest.

I witnessed a horrible crime outside my home last yearÖmanaged to not talk myself into a charge.

But thatís different.  You were a witness...and Iím terribly sorry that you saw something horrible.  Andrew is a potential criminal and if he says the wrong thing he would land himself in deep trouble.  Everyone involved is skating by the skin of their teeth and no one will talk unless forced to. 
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« Reply #11576 on: April 29, 2021, 06:38:46 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesnít mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK theyíd either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didnít consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasnít freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epsteinís crime and heís dead.

But yeah...they canít prove he committed a crime so they canít issue an arrest warrant.  They havenít follow normal channels for a discussion either. 

Someone with any decency and nothing to hide would gladly talk. And yea that goes for all the American bigwigs too.

Andrews excuses are weak sauce. What a hill to die on, Your Royal Highness.

I respectfully disagree.

Talking when you are not required to is the fastest way of talking yourself into a charge.

Andrew should only talk wen a formal request has been made by the FBI for questioning and he knows in what capacity he is being questioned as i.e. either a witness or a person of interest.

I witnessed a horrible crime outside my home last yearÖmanaged to not talk myself into a charge.

But thatís different.  You were a witness...and Iím terribly sorry that you saw something horrible.  Andrew is a potential criminal and if he says the wrong thing he would land himself in deep trouble.  Everyone involved is skating by the skin of their teeth and no one will talk unless forced to. 

Exactly OC.

Andrew may not be guilty of rape or trafficking or any other Epstein related crime but he may be guilty of something else and in trying to talk himself out of the Epstein related crimes he may just talk himself into his real crime.
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« Reply #11577 on: April 29, 2021, 06:41:18 PM »

There was an allegation that he slept with a 17 year old girl in the UK - not a crime as the age of consent in the UK is 16. That is why Scotland Yard aren't involved as no crime has been committed in the UK.

In NYC the age of consent is also 17 so again no crime if sleeping with a 17 year old.

The FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant but have suggested they want to talk to Andrew.

If they had issued an arrest warrant then they would have to prove to a UK court that Andrew had committed a crime in the US that was also a crime in the UK.

By not issuing an arrest warrant then FBI are the ones that have to go to the UK to interview him there and not Andrew go to the US to answer their questions.

The US has many laws that the rest of the world don't recognise which is why often the US fails to get an extradition through and sometimes even though there is a proven case the extradition won't be granted as the state/federal authority includes the death penalty for the crime. Most western countries won't extradite someone if they will face the death penalty or an extreme punishment. The punishment to be meted out in the country to which a person is to be extradited also has to be basically the same as in the home country in many cases e.g. a crime that would get a person 10 years in Australia but might get life in the US won't see that person extradited as that punishment would be deemed 'excessive'.

Being at or above the age of consent doesnít mean that your consent is automatic but rather those bellow the age of consent are viewed as legally unable to give consent...thereby making it automatically a crime to have relations.  For Andrew in the UK theyíd either need to prove that she was trafficked because victims of trafficking are viewed as legally unable to consent or that regardless of her age that she didnít consent of her own free will...and that he was aware that her consent wasnít freely given.   Problem is they can prove the trafficking because that was Epsteinís crime and heís dead.

But yeah...they canít prove he committed a crime so they canít issue an arrest warrant.  They havenít follow normal channels for a discussion either.  

Someone with any decency and nothing to hide would gladly talk. And yea that goes for all the American bigwigs too.

Andrews excuses are weak sauce. What a hill to die on, Your Royal Highness.

I respectfully disagree.

Talking when you are not required to is the fastest way of talking yourself into a charge.

Andrew should only talk wen a formal request has been made by the FBI for questioning and he knows in what capacity he is being questioned as i.e. either a witness or a person of interest.

I witnessed a horrible crime outside my home last yearÖmanaged to not talk myself into a charge.

But thatís different.  You were a witness...and Iím terribly sorry that you saw something horrible.  Andrew is a potential criminal and if he says the wrong thing he would land himself in deep trouble.  Everyone involved is skating by the skin of their teeth and no one will talk unless forced to.  

Exactly OC.

Andrew may not be guilty of rape or trafficking or any other Epstein related crime but he may be guilty of something else and in trying to talk himself out of the Epstein related crimes he may just talk himself into his real crime.
If the car crash interview is anything to go by, there is a very high probability of that happening.
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« Reply #11578 on: May 16, 2021, 03:47:58 PM »

Prince Andrew is removed from almost 50 patronages as charities rush to distance themselves from him over to links to paedophile Jeffrey Epstein

https://www.dailymail.co....es-rush-distance-him.html

I will say one thing - at least he's not whinging nonsense about how his upbringing is all to blame for this.

It will be interesting with travel loosening up if the FBI hies over to the UK in an attempt to interview him.

Also wondering if there are any kind of deals on offer with Ghislaine going on trial.
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« Reply #11579 on: May 16, 2021, 05:59:59 PM »

Prince Andrew is removed from almost 50 patronages as charities rush to distance themselves from him over to links to paedophile Jeffrey Epstein

https://www.dailymail.co....es-rush-distance-him.html

I will say one thing - at least he's not whinging nonsense about how his upbringing is all to blame for this.

It will be interesting with travel loosening up if the FBI hies over to the UK in an attempt to interview him.

Also wondering if there are any kind of deals on offer with Ghislaine going on trial.

Iíd be surprised if he can be pushed into anything... even with Maxwell it will be unlikely and I donít see the Uk sending him over there ... but anything is possible
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