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« Reply #11955 on: September 23, 2021, 02:32:42 PM »

she was 17 if they did anything and that is over the legal age of consent in the UK. It is also the legal age of consent in NYC

It doesn’t matter if she’s 17, 30, or 55. A victim of sex trafficking cannot legally consent.

ab I appreciate your comments but if it was that straight forward there would have been an outcome in a criminal court a long time ago... it may still happen in the future.... clearly she is unhappy and challenged with her life decades ago and no one would deny her the right to state her case now
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« Reply #11956 on: September 23, 2021, 03:09:26 PM »

Further muddying the waters are VRG's previous written inaccuracies with dates (some of them more than a year off). The case rests on her being 17 years 8 months at the time of the alleged encounter in USVI. She also previously stated that Andrew did not know she was allegedly trafficked and that Epstein was the one that paid her for the encounter. Presumably Andrew's attorneys will follow the tactics used by Dershowitz and start by having Boies firm disqualified from representing her https://casetext.com/case/giuffre-v-dershowitz-4.  Fun fact, David Boies' son Jonathan lived next to us for 4 years. He was an absolute deadbeat on paying his bills. We live on a private road that expenses are shared by the 8 home owners. I had to take him to small claims court for a judgement because he refused to pay not only the street plowing but also his own  driveway. Same thing with the lawn maintenance man. I filed a lien against the house. Jonathan unexpectedly dropped dead. Daddy Boies tried to threaten me into dropping the lien as it was holding up the sale of the house. He said he would sue me and I could wait to be paid 'sometime after the closing'. I said if you are concerned about  holding up the closing, just pay me for the damn plowing and lawn maintenance. Which in the end is what he did. Not too impressed with any of the Boies family.
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« Reply #11957 on: September 23, 2021, 03:25:18 PM »

I feel a need to repeat that we will not host any discussions pro-con Virginia.

Also the topic is the Yorks: she isn’t one.
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« Reply #11958 on: September 23, 2021, 08:54:53 PM »

Further muddying the waters are VRG's previous written inaccuracies with dates (some of them more than a year off). The case rests on her being 17 years 8 months at the time of the alleged encounter in USVI. She also previously stated that Andrew did not know she was allegedly trafficked and that Epstein was the one that paid her for the encounter. Presumably Andrew's attorneys will follow the tactics used by Dershowitz and start by having Boies firm disqualified from representing her https://casetext.com/case/giuffre-v-dershowitz-4.  Fun fact, David Boies' son Jonathan lived next to us for 4 years. He was an absolute deadbeat on paying his bills. We live on a private road that expenses are shared by the 8 home owners. I had to take him to small claims court for a judgement because he refused to pay not only the street plowing but also his own  driveway. Same thing with the lawn maintenance man. I filed a lien against the house. Jonathan unexpectedly dropped dead. Daddy Boies tried to threaten me into dropping the lien as it was holding up the sale of the house. He said he would sue me and I could wait to be paid 'sometime after the closing'. I said if you are concerned about  holding up the closing, just pay me for the damn plowing and lawn maintenance. Which in the end is what he did. Not too impressed with any of the Boies family.

Fascinating true life slice!    Star   Private roads can be a pain in the ass when everyone living on it doesn't cooperate.  Sorry for OT
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« Reply #11959 on: September 23, 2021, 11:44:29 PM »

I wasn't being pro or con VRG at all. I was discussing the problems that the case  being made against Andrew will be facing and how the opposing counsel will likely follow the strategy that Dershowitz successfully used to make the suit go away. Sorry if I accidentally waded in to far. But this is all going to be on the cover of papers all over the world  as it is argued in court  as this goes forward.
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« Reply #11960 on: October 02, 2021, 12:15:44 PM »

From the Telegraph today:

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The Queen is privately funding the Duke of York’s legal fight against sex abuse allegations to the tune of millions of pounds, the Telegraph understands.

Prince Andrew, 61, last week expanded his American legal team, hiring Melissa Lerner, a Princeton and Columbia graduate, to work alongside lead counsel Andrew Brettler.

Both work for Lavley Singer, a renowned Los Angeles-based law firm reputed for its ability to make celebrities' legal problems “go away” - and commanding the fees to do so.

Mr Brettler is thought to be charging the Duke around $2,000 an hour, while Ms Lerner’s appointment, their junior staff and his UK-based legal team, led by criminal defence solicitor Gary Bloxsome, have already sent his bills soaring.

Her Majesty, 95, agreed to pay for her son’s defence at the beginning of last year, shortly after his disastrous Newsnight interview, in which he failed to show any empathy for Jeffrey Epstein's victims or regret over their friendship.

The funds will be sourced from her annual income from her private Duchy of Lancaster estate, which recently increased by £1.5 million to more than £23 million.

Royal courtiers accept that the overall legal bill will run into millions, with the civil case likely to drag on for months or even years. The prospect of a potential settlement, or damages payout, could cost many millions more on top.

Giuffre seeks 'substantial' compensatory and punitive damages

The Duke's accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, 38, has not put a figure on the amount of compensation she is seeking for “significant emotional and psychological distress and harm” but is asking for compensatory and punitive damages, both of which would be “substantial”.

She has accused the Duke of sexually assaulting her on three separate occasions when she was 17, allegations he has always denied.

Duke has no discernible income, say experts The Queen’s financial intervention was considered a necessity. The Duke’s personal finances are shrouded in mystery but experts point out that despite an affluent lifestyle, he has no discernible income.

He and his ex-wife, the Duchess of York, were sued last year by the previous owner of their Swiss ski chalet, who alleged that they owed her £6.7 million after purchasing it for around £17 million in 2014.

The chalet, bought with a mortgage and private funding from the Queen, is on the brink of being sold in order to repay that debt. The sale, when it goes through, will mean the Duke no longer owns any property.

He leases his home, Royal Lodge on the Queen's Windsor estate, which is owned by the Crown estate.

It was the Duchess’s money troubles that shone a spotlight back on to the Duke’s ill-judged friendship with Epstein a decade ago, when she was forced to apologise after it emerged she had accepted £15,000 from him to help pay off her debts.

David Rowland, the financier said to co-own an offshore fund in the British Virgin Islands tax haven with the Duke, also reportedly paid £40,000 to help clear her debts in 2010. The Queen’s involvement has meant that Mr Bloxsome is obliged to keep Buckingham Palace updated on developments in the case. However, attempts by courtiers to gain insight into his legal strategy are thought to have been rebuffed, as they have been kept largely in the dark.

The focus of the case has now shifted to the US, with the Duke’s team vowing to “robustly” engage with the legal process in order to clear his name.

Ms Lerner describes herself in an online profile as an “entertainment litigator with big law experience in IP (intellectual property) and pharma litigation and white collar defence.”

The recently represented the family of Chris Cornell, the late singer with rock band Soundgarden, in a case against a doctor they alleged had overprescribed drugs to the musician.

The terms of the settlement, which was finalised in May, were not disclosed.   Ms Lerner is an associate at Lavely Singer, which is headed by Marty Singer, who is known in Hollywood as “Mad Dog Marty”, and has represented stars including John Travolta, Scarlett Johansson, Charlie Sheen and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Duke returned to Windsor on Thursday after spending the last few weeks at Balmoral, the Queen’s Aberdeenshire estate, where he is thought to have kept his mother updated on the case during private lunches.

He has until October 29 to respond to the lawsuit and the next hearing is scheduled for November 3.
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« Reply #11961 on: October 02, 2021, 04:07:54 PM »

Absolutely disappointing of the queen if true.
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« Reply #11962 on: October 02, 2021, 04:09:38 PM »

Thank you, Perdie.

My reaction:  Dead

Not a good look for the Queen. I hope William is taking notes to secure the monarchy for his kids.

Andrew is amoral and always has been.

Popcorn time!
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« Reply #11963 on: October 02, 2021, 05:52:55 PM »

A comment on Reddit nails it: she’s spending millions to protect the BRF, not Andrew. This is the correct answer.
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« Reply #11964 on: October 02, 2021, 06:25:09 PM »

Yes that does seem to nail what is going on. They see the bigger picture.
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« Reply #11965 on: October 02, 2021, 06:35:01 PM »

A comment on Reddit nails it: she’s spending millions to protect the BRF, not Andrew. This is the correct answer.

I didn’t think of it that way. I can see that.

But should the BRF protect behavior like that? Seems monarchies have done that for centuries. Spain did not eventually protect its king and now he’s exiled.

It’s all very confusing. Problem was, Andrew wasn’t raised right and was allowed to cavort with pedoes and unsavory characters.



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« Reply #11966 on: October 02, 2021, 06:55:19 PM »

Absolutely disappointing of the queen if true.

guess it's not surprising, but probably not a good look for the brf, but andrew hasn't really even rec'd that much ridicule when you think about it.  he should be ashamed that his mother has to pay for this, but i'm sure he's not.  sorry for his daughters and their families.
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« Reply #11967 on: October 02, 2021, 07:38:09 PM »

I don’t know many mothers that wouldn’t pay for their child's legal fees to be fair. He’s a slimeball for sure but I am sure his mother loves  him. 
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« Reply #11968 on: October 02, 2021, 07:49:40 PM »

But should the BRF protect behavior like that?

No.
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« Reply #11969 on: October 02, 2021, 09:34:26 PM »

I don’t know many mothers that wouldn’t pay for their child's legal fees to be fair. He’s a slimeball for sure but I am sure his mother loves  him. 

Yes, this doesn’t surprise me at all. Whether it’s because she believes him or just because she thinks he deserves a good defense, I don’t think there is any scandal here.
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